The Data Hits the Fan

AshleyMadisonChump Lady is coming out of her sleepy vacation cocoon today to report on the Ashley Madison data dump. The hacker(s) made good on their threat. They posted 9.7 gigabytes of data to the “Dark Web” (some nebulous region of the web that Google doesn’t access). Reportedly, the dump contains credit card transactions, email addresses, etc. of Ashley Madison users.

Not surprisingly, AM has its kinky peek-a-boo knickers in a twist.

“This event is not an act of hacktivism, it is an act of criminality. It is an illegal action against the individual members of AshleyMadison.com,” the site said. “The criminal, or criminals, involved in this act have appointed themselves as the moral judge, juror, and executioner, seeing fit to impose a personal notion of virtue on all of society.”

Imposing virtue on all of society? What an obnoxious, insensitive act, said the man who tried to buy the naming rights to a football stadium.

But I get the blameshifting. Better to complain about moral judgments than let people dwell on the whole fraud thing. Oops, didn’t scrub that data like you promised, huh?

Anyway, what do you all think of the data dump? Here’s my prediction — it’s a new business opportunity. Now sites will spring up helping you access “the Dark Web” and find the dirt. Other businesses will spring up to help people scrub the data and manage online reputations.

All I know is Noel Biderman is having a very, very bad day.

What are your thoughts?

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GreenGirl
GreenGirl
8 years ago

http://memegenerator.net/instance/54013315

Also, not sure how I feel about the credit card thing. Someone could find and use that credit card information to buy whatever they please, and as we know cheating can be devastating enough without that.

GreenGirl
GreenGirl
8 years ago
Reply to  GreenGirl

Why can’t I show images?

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  GreenGirl

Last week, I gummed up someone’s thread trying to post, post and repost a video. It kept displaying a URL without embedding it but I did manage to insert an image okay. I thought maybe it was my iPad but another chump then posted a YouTube video using every method I described and also from his phone. I even used the WordPress instructions.

Carry On My Wayward Nerd Girl
Carry On My Wayward Nerd Girl
8 years ago
Reply to  ChumpyElf

Chumpy, you never gum, you just add 🙂

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago

Hey, girl! Well, I added A LOT to your thread 😉

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago

I wonder if Al Gore ever envisioned such a scary place as the dark web when he invented the internet 😉 An illustrious chump is already downloading the ginormous file and is going to report back on whether it is safe to view. I’m totally the kid in the cartoon. I am online all the time but apparently ignore extraneous info. For the longest time, I thought Ashley Madison was an online clothing store….

Chumpish
Chumpish
8 years ago
Reply to  ChumpyElf

So funny! I once saw a site ‘black planet” on x’s computer. I thought it was a National Geographic thing.

HeLovesMeHeLovesMeNot
HeLovesMeHeLovesMeNot
8 years ago
Reply to  Chumpish

LOL Chumpish…I just found out last week that my stbx also has an account on “black planet”…I had NO idea what that even was. Seriously, at this point, I would be more surprised now if he wasn’t signed up for any site that involves cheating and screwing around.

I can’t WAIT for the results of the forensic detectives report that will show just how “special” he truly is. And I have no doubt that he’s right there among the other cheating scum on AM. Just from my limited ability to search, I’ve found that he’s signed up for pretty much all the cheating apps…. he’s especially fond of Instabang, Instaf*ck, Instahookup, InstaAffair, etc…basically anything for “insta” gratification in his little fantasy world. My only decision will be what I will do with all the information once I get it. I told him we’ll just have a freaking slide show at the court trial. I’ll bring the popcorn …he can bring the TUMS.

SeeTheLight
SeeTheLight
8 years ago
Reply to  ChumpyElf

Me too! (women’s clothing) -the first time it came up in our home computer browser about 10 years ago. But, one click had my rose-colored glasses toppling from my nose.
Of course, at that time, my cheater told me he was just bored, the profiles were free, and he was “just joking around” with all these “moronic people” on the site. Uh, huh….

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  SeeTheLight

When I was bored and could still eat, I would troll the internet for new chocolate recipes and shared goofy knock-knock jokes with my 7 y.o. ;O

Kate50
Kate50
8 years ago
Reply to  ChumpyElf

My crime was going on a conspiracy site that consisted of world headline news and a forum to discuss things. I actually miss it today, I quit going since my own life became my headline news for me. 🙁 STBXH said I was on it too much and that’s why he cheated, well if he would have been home more I’m assuming that might have helped him not to cheat as well. Geez

Tempest
Tempest
8 years ago
Reply to  Kate50

Kate50: I’m sure, if asked, mine would have claimed the time I spent commenting on a news site years ago was the reason he felt compelled to screw colleagues and grad students at conferences, and why he had to use adult websites to find people who would look up at him adoringly. They will find whatever ‘reason’ they can to justify their debauched behavior. If it wasn’t that, it would have been another (you spent too much time folding laundry). Who the F cares what they say anymore? No point talking reason to the disordered.

tossedaway
tossedaway
8 years ago
Reply to  Tempest

Yep, they will use any excuse to justify their cheating. My STBX told me I looked at houses (because I thought we were going to buy a bigger house) and cars (I just like to look) on the internet to much so he had to find someone who understood him better (his employee who is 15 years younger than him). Evidently his porn habit made him desire a more kinky woman, so he decided since I like to window shop online, it meant I was materialistic. Cheaters will twist everything around to their benefit, to appease their guilt and justify their actions.

CalamityJane
CalamityJane
8 years ago
Reply to  tossedaway

“My personal preference is for them all to spontaneously combust.”

That is hysterical, Tempest. Thanks for the laugh.

Tempest
Tempest
8 years ago
Reply to  tossedaway

My personal preference is for them all to spontaneously combust.

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  tossedaway

LMAO! One can only dream….

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  tossedaway

Oh but you are being so mean! i’m sure she isn’t a skank. She’s probably had a hard life and she is so underappreciated and smart. She isn’t a scheming, predatory, opportunistic, delusional, aggressive beeyotch. You should be friends with her, you would really like her! ;O

I hope Asshat gets swept away in a firenado for cheating, ruining our family and for condescending to say shit like that to me!

not Juliet
not Juliet
8 years ago
Reply to  ChumpyElf

How about a combination firenado/sharknado, lol.

Kate50
Kate50
8 years ago
Reply to  tossedaway

Ah you know what really happened, he just forgot he was a married man and fell and went after the skank at work!!! It had nothing to do with me. That’s the real truth!

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  tossedaway

Amen to all of it. Asshat can come up with lots of reasons why he did it. The story changes and I can’t even argue back anymore bc i am sick of listening to him so I do a lot of vaguely confused staring. I can use the excuse that I’m woozy from not eating or sleeping for heaven knows how long. Just paid a bill and the company owner told me she was seeing him tomorrow and gushed a little about him. I almost vomited on the office floor. Why oh why can’t the entire fucking town just know he sucks?

ramonthedog
ramonthedog
8 years ago
Reply to  ChumpyElf

Or Furniture, for the Entitled.

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  ramonthedog

LOL!

Calla2015
Calla2015
8 years ago

Hi, I’m new.

My stbxh used Ashley Madison. He met several women on there over the course of three years. So glad I’ve already separated our bank accounts before someone decided to use his credit card info to go on a shopping spree.

One thing that does annoy me is when reading articles about AM is that so many people say that all the women on Ashley Madison are fake and that no one ever meets anyone on there. It’s not true at all. There’s plenty of opportunity to cheat if that’s one’s goal. I was the one that actually brought the site’s existence up to my stbxh when I saw an add for it online. We laughed about it, like what a ridiculous site. Who knew he would actually go on there and use it’s services.

Joanne
Joanne
8 years ago
Reply to  Calla2015

My ex found his soulmate on AM. Her stupid coworkers told her to get on the site. I still find that appalling. I am so happy he is gone. He turned out to be nothing but a serial cheating narcissist.

newchumpatl
newchumpatl
8 years ago
Reply to  Joanne

Soulmate? LOLLOLLOL. Pathetic.

not Juliet
not Juliet
8 years ago
Reply to  newchumpatl

Found his “WhoreMate” is more like it, lol.

Hesatthecurb
Hesatthecurb
8 years ago
Reply to  not Juliet

I think “HOLEMATE” just about says it all……..;-)

not Juliet
not Juliet
8 years ago
Reply to  Hesatthecurb

Good one, hesatthecurb! I like that even better.

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago
Reply to  not Juliet

ROTFLMAO!

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago
Reply to  not Juliet

Yep! For sure! LOL!

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago
Reply to  Joanne

Joanne, it always cracks me up when these cheaters talk about finding their “soulmate” or the even better, “following their hearts.” Yeah, right! That would, IMHO, require actually having a soul and a heart and most of these cheaters own any of those! They do however have over active sex glands, so I guess that counts for the lack of the missing parts! Pfffft! Soul mates my ass!

Regina
Regina
8 years ago
Reply to  Roberta

Yeah Roberta, they (cheaters) are the Tin Man, the Cowardly Lion & The Scarecrow looking for the heart, brain and courage they will never have! Cowardly heartless fools. Dorothy is our Chump, loving and caring for them, wanting to wake up from a bad dream and go home. No place like Home.
On the Ashley Madison front, amazing how they attempt to deflect all dishonesty on to those who have hacked them, and take no responsibility for being the deadbeat cheater-losers they are and what exactly they are all about.

GreenGirl
GreenGirl
8 years ago
Reply to  Roberta

Seriously – how immature is the word “soul mate.”

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago
Reply to  Roberta

I meant, most of these cheaters DON’T own!

ChumpFromF
ChumpFromF
8 years ago
Reply to  Calla2015

Happens often, Calla2015. Several of us told our cheater about an interesting (useful/shocking/…) website, that slowly led us to D-Day and the misery that comes with it.

In my case, it was a site to learn foreign languages, that offers free modules for the basics, and eventually lets you chat with real people to acquire the subtleties of the language… or a whole new vocabulary that no decent site would teach ! The woman he met to chat, was interested in having a house on the French Riviera, a visa and a Visa. She probably learnt a very effective Kama Sutra from the Internet too, because soon enough, he was meeting her abroad, and he fell head over heels in twu luw despite her plain appearance and lack of scruples.

Yeah, women don’t use Ashley Madison… right… it’s goats in disguise

Stephanie
Stephanie
8 years ago

Apparently my ex used Adult Friend Finder, and there is a new PI company that alleges to give you a report if the e-mail you query is associated with an AFF account. http://www.trustify.info/blog/trustify-in-the-news-adult-friend-finder-search-tool

This is where I found out about the ex, and where you can do your own search for free here: https://haveibeenpwned.com/

To be clear, this isn’t how I found out about the exit affair; he just came out with it when I pressed him about why he didn’t want to have a little naked fun with me one night about 4 years ago. Many of you know the feeling of a proverbial bomb going off in the family home. He was proud of himself and fairly forthcoming with many, many details, which I wanted to know, about the Love Of His Life. Interestingly, the AFF account had never been mentioned; I just found out about it last week–much to my amusement, honestly.

But what I’m super curious about is when the account was opened (before her, after her?) and how often it was accessed, and what my ex’s stated marital status and sexual preference is/was.

Hmmm….

Apparently that info is also posted on the dark web. (So not going there.)

OTOH, he’s not my problem any more, so my curiosity is more prurient than anything.

Truly, it doesn’t matter. Except that it blows away the BS that OW was some sort of divine destiny in xH’s life, you know, what’s the cliche? Bigger Than All Of Us, or whatever? Meant To Be?

Pppppt!! Stone. Cold. Cheater. (And liar and idiot.)

ANR
ANR
8 years ago
Reply to  Stephanie

so I found my stbx’s e-mail on haveibeenpwned, but I don’t know exactly what that means — there are sites listed there that have been compromised but aren’t anything to do with cheating. Can’t get the ashleymadisonleaked site to load,

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago
Reply to  ANR

ANR, it means your cheater is on AM. I believe in the chaos of setting up these sites they meant to say, “haveibeenowned”! They hit the “p” instead of the “o”.

ANR
ANR
8 years ago
Reply to  Roberta

Well the origin was a spelling mistake, but “pwned” has been around a while:

“A corruption of the word “Owned.” This originated in an online game called Warcraft, where a map designer misspelled “owned.” When the computer beat a player, it was supposed to say, so-and-so “has been owned.”

Instead, it said, so-and-so “has been pwned.”

It basically means “to own” or to be dominated by an opponent or situation, especially by some god-like or computer-like force.”

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pwned

Anyhow, I guess it doesn’t matter — not like I don’t know she’s a cheater

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago
Reply to  ANR

Thanks for the explanation ANR. I’m not a “gamer” so I didn’t know! Guess I’m getting older, but not smarter! What do you expect from a Grandma of eleven?? I checked that site with all the known emails of my Ex and it didn’t find him, but he could have some emails I knew nothing about, it really doesn’t matter anyways because I KNOW he’s a cheater and that’s why he’s now my EX! Besides, he’s a cheap bastard, he prefers chatting up stupid hardup HO’S on FaceBook! He lives off of one of them now! I wish her luck, she’s gonna need it!

Miss Sunshine
Miss Sunshine
8 years ago
Reply to  Roberta

See if his Facebook e-mail address is listed.

Tempest
Tempest
8 years ago
Reply to  ANR

try trustily.info–it has emails from both AM and Adult Friend Finder. My X was on there. Loser.

ANR
ANR
8 years ago
Reply to  Tempest

Well, she’s not on there, at least not with any e-mail address I know. But my e-mail address is. WTF?

ami
ami
8 years ago

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! Yay!

DQ
DQ
8 years ago

Personally I find it very funny. After all secrecy is the hallmark of cheating…..don’t feel sorry for the cheaters ..only the wives and husbands attached to their credit cards and information. Narcula actually blanched when I told him about the ‘breach of secrecy’ at AM. He is so busted.

FinallyMovingForward
FinallyMovingForward
8 years ago
Reply to  DQ

Narcula – I just laughed so loudly that I may have scared the neighbors. =)

Kelly
Kelly
8 years ago
Reply to  DQ

Narcula, love it!

Hesatthecurb
Hesatthecurb
8 years ago
Reply to  DQ

DQ—“Narcula”–that is priceless!!! I wish I had thought of that. They are truly narkly sparkly vampires…..

Kraft
Kraft
8 years ago

Ditto DQ. I hope the innocent aren’t effected, and I don’t believe in theft, so the credit card part is wrong. Gone too far. But name and shame cheaters? Wow, bring that on !! Sounds like the Karma bullet train is on the way! Divorce lawyers will have a field day.

Red
Red
8 years ago

I think it’s only a matter of days before we have a new Mayflower Madam/Hollywood Madam-type scandal on our hands. How many celebrities and politicians are on that list? Doctors? Lawyers? Church leaders?

I just feel for all the chumps out there who are going to have their private life exposed in a big way. 🙁

Oh, what a tangled web cheaters weave…

FreedomFromCrazy
FreedomFromCrazy
8 years ago
Reply to  Red

Well, creepy dough-faced Josh Duggar has been found to have two paid Ashley Nadison accounts and spent nearly $1000 over 2 years on this crap. Check it out, you won’t believe the info it gives. Puts a new spin on the term “bible bangin”???.

http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-1725132091?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

I do feel awful for Anna, but I’d bet money she’ll be the perfect Fireproof spouse that stands by her man…it’s just so sad and depressing. It would be so amazing if she surprises everyone and ditches his ass and joins Chump Nation! I’d love to hear what really goes on behind the scenes in that family.

Tempest
Tempest
8 years ago

“Puts a new spin on the term “bible bangin”???.”

LOL, Freedom!

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago
Reply to  Tempest

That Josh Dugger keeps getting creepier and creepier! Yuck!

Hesatthecurb
Hesatthecurb
8 years ago
Reply to  Roberta

Anyone besides me think it’s rather ‘coincidental’ that Duggar’s account on AM came to its demise in May of 2015?

In May of 2015, he stepped down from his position at the Family Research Council.

Aww, poor Joshie. Sorry Bud, that didn’t save your ass from being found out. CREEP

Beth
Beth
8 years ago
Reply to  Roberta

For some reason I’m not shocked that he is on there. One of the many sickos in that so called holy than thou family. Every single one of them gives me the creeps.

Tempest, love your term “bible bangin” ha!

Tempest
Tempest
8 years ago
Reply to  Beth

That was actually Freedom’s term (which I loved!)

Debdenchis
Debdenchis
8 years ago

I’m pretty sure the “DARK WEB” is where I’ve been living since D-day. About every 2 weeks another lie my ex told comes to the light. Then it’s an inner battle between i wasn’t crazy or am I crazy or he has to be crazy. It’s only fitting for those names to end up there. Wish I could look at the names….

Chumpish
Chumpish
8 years ago
Reply to  Debdenchis

My thoughts exactly debdechis. Like falling into a dark hole, feels like it will never end. The X is a master gaslighter, too, so I questioned my sanity like many chumps here. My first time here with CL I read a chump’s comment that included “I thought I was going crazy.” I was so relieved, I wasn’t the only one. That darkness is awful, but I can come here and in minutes not only feel lighter, but laugh hysterically.

ItsAJourney
ItsAJourney
8 years ago
Reply to  Debdenchis

You’re not crazy. Cheaters just want you to feel that way so you’ll stop questioning their lies. Don’t stop. If something doesn’t quite add up, your cheater is probably lying. Keep reading CL and go through the archives; it will save your sanity!

Rebecca
Rebecca
8 years ago

I couldn’t open the Tor browser. If anyone hears of a different place to view the list, please share!
I understand the risks of downloading Tor but still couldn’t get it to open,
Hopefully some other group will share the names at least.
Be funny to see if the ex cheated on the OW!

OtherChump
OtherChump
8 years ago
Reply to  Rebecca

As far as I know, the list is available via torrenting websites.https://grahamcluley.com/2015/08/ashley-madisons-leaked-database-available-download-read-this/

not Juliet
not Juliet
8 years ago

Ugh. I hate cheaters. Hopefully they had enough sense to get a secret email and credit card if they used AM. I had used my debit and credit card at Target a few years ago when they had their security breach. Both companies closed those accounts and reissued.

HoustonDad
HoustonDad
8 years ago

Technically what the hackers did is illegal but in this case I don’t think anyone is going to care. Well….nasty scum bag cheaters will care but who gives a shit what they think. They deserve every bad thing that could happen to them as a result of this. The very fact that a site like this exists says a whole hell of a lot about what kind of society we have become. If great floods, famine, or disease come along and wipe out humanity it wouldn’t surprise me a bit. Humanity might just deserve that fate at this point. I wish people that still believed in morals and standards could have more inspiration over the future direction of society but they can’t. Living a corrupt life fully of shady’ness is easier and more fun to these scum bags.

Digbert
Digbert
8 years ago

Evening news reports here in my part of the world seem more concerned about the (lack of) morals of the hackers, someone could be driven to suicide if the info gets out and that is unfair on the families etc. Where was the motive, families and people’s lives could be ruined here……….!!!! I think that is somewhat ironic, although I would not want anyone to be driven to suicide of course.

That reminds me, my XH in one of his frequency exit meltdowns blubbed ” I feel like sh@t for what I have done to you (big sobs ….then dramatic collapsing) he would then pipe up “I am okay………..I am not suicidal” and then would grin when I tried to comfort him. Self preservation – he never felt ‘that bad’

Buddy
Buddy
8 years ago
Reply to  Digbert

Digbert,

My cheater did the same. Acted out the sorrow, got suicidal a number of times until I comforted her and let her know I would give reconciliation a shot, and then with in a few days, back to the status quo of selfishness and manipulation (although the affair was long since over).

I know for a fact she was not truly sorry and she felt justified in having the affair, and any sorrow she felt for my devastation paled in comparison to her quest for true love outside the marriage.

FreeWoman
FreeWoman
8 years ago
Reply to  Digbert

Sorry you had to go through that, it’s so upsetting, to normal people. That’s just how devious I’m-smarter-than-you tricksters act, when they are faced with consequences of their OWN actions! It sounds so familiar to me. Now, the X (who sometimes sends me a ‘let’s get back together’ text, is on to the re-writing history phase, where I made mistakes, and he made them, and can’t we just forget all that? No, dude, not after what you did. I told him – Trust is gone. No more relationship for you!
And besides, I found out there’s a whole new world out here, away from a serial cheater! People are good! And there’s fun things to do, when you aren’t catering to a creepy person! Time to do what I want now.

GreenGirl
GreenGirl
8 years ago
Reply to  FreeWoman

…and now I hear former chumps and CL singing to those just going through D-day and unsure of what to do.

I can show you the world
Shining, shimmering, splendid
Tell me, chump, now when did
You last let your heart decide?
I can open your eyes
Take you wonder by wonder

Little Mighty Me
Little Mighty Me
8 years ago

According to the linked source, and several other news stories I read this morning, the credit card information is not included in the data dump. The info has only the last 4 digits, or (in many cases) a four-digit transaction number from AM. So, we can rest easy about credit card breaches, and just revel in the fact that 37 million cheaters are sweating.

ItsAJourney
ItsAJourney
8 years ago

I would think anybody that ever had an AM account would consider calling their credit card company, canceling their card, and having them issue a new card. Credit card crisis solved! Now, as for that pesky profile information…

IF the cheater list goes public the only people I’ll feel bad for are the newly minted chumps… knowing that for many of them, their lives will be forever changed. I remember the days following Dday… the mind games, disorientation, trying to make sense of it all, and spackeling because it was too big a jump for me to believe stbx had been cheating for most of our 30 year marriage. The timing of CL’s book couldn’t be better.

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago

I feel if you are going to cheat then you had better be ready to face any consequences associated with your choice. Isn’t that the biggest problem with these cheaters? They are so deep into entitlement that they feel they shouldn’t HAVE to deal with the fallout! If I were to choose to rob a bank, I would have to think about getting caught and serving time, being subject to public humiliation and scrutiny, judgement by friends, family and strangers, etc! Cheaters must be brain dead to believe that somehow, someway the truth won’t come to light! I don’t feel sorry for Ashley Madison or its CEO. And nothing is richer than him expounding on how wrong it is for these people to do this to AM! Awe, come on…..don’t be so judgeeee! What an idiot!!!

Buddy
Buddy
8 years ago
Reply to  Roberta

“Cheaters must be brain dead to believe that somehow, someway the truth won’t come to light! ”

Yeah, I’ll never really understand how they process this internally.

TheClip
TheClip
8 years ago

Noel is a business man… He is about’ bottom line’ not ethics. He capitalized on cheating. Funny how its ok for Noel’s company to encourage, defend and support cheating…. But Noel is not so happy that he got cheated!!!! Funny how that shit works.

Datdamwuf
Datdamwuf
8 years ago

I used Tor quite a bit back in the day, just remember if you torrent you may not be anonymous. Read the warnings if you intend to grab that data. I have no doubt someone will post it in a searchable database fairly soon.

It’s hilarious, Saddam joined AM immediately after moving into his girlfriends house…so no, they don’t change for their “soul mate”…

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago

Clip, I totally agree! He is in business to earn money. I have no problem with capitalism, but bottom line here is his company lied( big shock!) to its customers about the deletion and security of the information they had. That’s his problem. There is always talk on CN about character, but along with that virtue people don’t consider integrity. I think the two go hand in hand. If a person is capable of lying to your face then do you really believe they are going to deal honestly when nobody is watching? Goes without saying that AM and the cheaters are like twins. All that “good virtue” and morality crap only applies to other people. When it comes to these folks applying these virtues, the rules are just a bit more flexible in their world!

TiredMomma
TiredMomma
8 years ago

ashleymadisonleaked.com

Someone created a searchable database for the leaked data. As for my reaction, I find it hilarious. It’s like when I found out about my ex and his AF…once you turn the lights on the roaches run and scatter and scream…

ringinonmyownbell
ringinonmyownbell
8 years ago
Reply to  TiredMomma

Just went to that website… crashed. Lots of people want to know if their schmuck is there.

Kate50
Kate50
8 years ago

I can’t get on, must have crashed hey?

LadyStrange
LadyStrange
8 years ago

Too funny! I will have to wait until I get home tonight to do a search. I could really give a shit if dumbass was on there or not – I just want to make sure OTHER PEOPLE know he was 🙂

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  LadyStrange

LMAO, I agree, LadyStrange. At this point Asshat could have been screwing the entire town and all I really want is for people to know the truth about him. And I wouldn’t be sad if word also got out about his broken plumbing.

LiningUpDucks
LiningUpDucks
8 years ago
Reply to  LadyStrange

Just to clarify: They released some of the data, but not all of the data, correct? So just because someone isn’t in this data dump, doesn’t mean they weren’t on AM.

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago

I just have to giggle at the irony in a news article I just read on this data dump. AM says they believe the hackers did this to ” impose a personal notion of virtue on all of society.” (GASP!) but when they asked the Errata Security Chief Executive Rob Graham what the motive may be, he said, “in all probability their motivation is #1 it’s fun, and #2 because they can.” Now I don’t know about any of you chumps, but those two reasons can be applied to cheating as well as hacking. So if we apply the other reasoning for cheating to hacking, then could it be also claimed that “it just happened” and “it was meant to be” and “they really are sorry for their mistake”! LMAO!

TimeHeals
TimeHeals
8 years ago

From wired: “some 15,000 are .mil. or .gov addresses. “.

They used their work email?

ca-chump
ca-chump
8 years ago
Reply to  TimeHeals

Yay! Should open a few job openings for chumps. Beyond .gov & .mil. there’s the .edu and .org. Then there are a lot of companies that will can employees for using work email for private business.

I’m sure this kind of information will find its way into background checks. Some places won’t care, but it’ll be a strike against applicants in others — sort of like posting drunk selfies on FB.

newchumpatl
newchumpatl
8 years ago
Reply to  TimeHeals

LOLOLOLOLOL

newchumpatl
newchumpatl
8 years ago

I JUST saw this on the news and so glad you addressed it Chump Lady. I wish I could access that data to see if my STBX is among the resident cheaters.

They deserve it, every single one of them. From Noel Biderman on down.

KARMA IS A BITCH! AHAHAHAHAHA

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  newchumpatl

I am glad full credit card numbers were not released so, yeah, bring it on! Except a chump pointed out in the forums that there are chump accounts that were created to hunt for their cheaters. So I do feel bad about that. I mused that cheaters might try using that as their excuse to have their own accounts. You know to catch us chumps since we are so untrustworthy….

TimeHeals
TimeHeals
8 years ago

One email in the data dump, for example, appears to belong to former UK Prime Minister (Tony Blair).

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago

Time Heals, I am not shocked at all that these cheaters used their work computers for “extracurriculars”! My Ex used his entire work day and his employers computer network to “play” with Schmoopie all day long! It was like watching him go off to Junior High School again every morning. He could hardly wait to go be with his “besties” and get away from that mean old “mommy” at home who expected him to act like an educated 60 year old! I lived in fear that his employer would get ahold of this activity and fire him! He thought he was slick! This is why I suggest chumps file ASAP and run! You have no idea what these cheaters are actually doing at work and you don’t need federal agents at the door or to be the Top Story On the local news! Get out while you can still get awarded assets and alimony, before they lose that too!

Lulu
Lulu
8 years ago

I feel really bad for all the chumps whose financial safety and own personal privacy will be compromised as a result of this hack.

I also don’t believe in vigilante justice. Nobody has the right to take the law into their own hands.

Buddy
Buddy
8 years ago
Reply to  Lulu

“as a result of this hack” or as the result of one person in the family, without consent from one’s spouse, voluntarily placing family confidential information at risk?

But yeah, I concur about the potential impact on chumps, and I too don’t believe in vigilante justice.

Lulu
Lulu
8 years ago
Reply to  Buddy

Of course the cheater is to blame for being on AM in the first place. But hackers are potentially making a bad situation much worse.

CalamityJane
CalamityJane
8 years ago
Reply to  Lulu

I humbly disagree that this is vigilante justice. A personal crime was committed against me. A website is available to show where the crime took place. He isn’t going to jail or serve time. The only thing that has happened is his dastardly deeds against me have been revealed.

The sun is shining where he thought he was cloaked in darkness to hide the crime committed against, what I was led to believe, our exclusive commitment. The crime that stole from my life, time, finances and relationship with others.

FUck himmMMmm…..

BoOOOO HOOooooo

WhereisMia
WhereisMia
8 years ago
Reply to  CalamityJane

Amen to that sweet Calamity !!! I second that x

Kelly
Kelly
8 years ago
Reply to  CalamityJane

I’m with you CalamityJane. To me the biggest wrong is a spouse signing up with AM, and in doing so stealing from his or her spouse and children, both in time, sunk costs, false promises, and also by wasting family assets to pay for it; and by risking the family’s security and safety by putting such personal Information on such a site. Every time I purchase from Amazon, Target, or QVC, or do my online banking, am aware that my information could be hacked. But these cheaters are the ones to cry most loudly, demand the most pity, and supposedly deserve the most help to avoid the consequence of what we all know can and does happen on the internet? We are all supposed to worry that the cheaters will “off” themselves in a fit of despair if they are exposed before they can find their true “soulmate” and abandon their families according to their own timetables? Lord help us……..

CalamityJane
CalamityJane
8 years ago
Reply to  Kelly

“We are all supposed to worry that the cheaters will “off” themselves in a fit of despair if they are exposed before they can find their true “soulmate” and abandon their families according to their own timetables?”

Emotional blackmail…

Cheater’s handbook Chapter 7

TimeHeals
TimeHeals
8 years ago

Speaking of Ashley Madison…

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/exclusive-perv-granny-nypd-sergeant-met-ashley-madison-article-1.2330014

A Massachusetts woman charged with drugging and molesting her grandson in Skype sessions with an NYPD sergeant met her play pal in perversity through the adultery web site Ashley Madison, the Daily News has learned.

HoustonDad
HoustonDad
8 years ago
Reply to  TimeHeals

AM needs to start being held accountable for their part in these crimes.

Tessie
Tessie
8 years ago
Reply to  HoustonDad

Houston Dad, I could not agree more.

ElectricTulip
ElectricTulip
8 years ago

Help the BBC anyone?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/33735240

TimeHeals
TimeHeals
8 years ago

And this… eve Polygamists cheat:

The official Knesset e-mail address of Joint List MK Taleb Abu Arar, a bigamist, was found to have registered for Ashley Madison, a dating website for people who want to cheat on their spouses, when hackers released about 36 million members’ e-mail addresses.

According to the hack, Abu Arar not only registered for the infidelity site, he confirmed his e-mail address. That extra step is not necessary in order to join Ashley Madison, but the hack indicates that 24 million of the e-mail addresses released were confirmed.

TimeHeals
TimeHeals
8 years ago
Reply to  TimeHeals

errr Even Polygamists cheat.

not Juliet
not Juliet
8 years ago

I’ll be honest, most people that aren’t either cheating or involved with a cheater give a rat’s ass about Ashley Madison so the impact probably isn’t as big as you think. I guess my name is in there due to the Fake profile I set up but I doubt anyone I know is gonna think “I better check to see if Not Juliet has a profile.”

WhereisMia
WhereisMia
8 years ago
Reply to  not Juliet

For my field research I too joined and met up with approx 20 “johns” I now have enough notes and photos anon to write my own book. When I was in the thick of deviants crazy making, I deeply needed to sit across other deviants and hear … REALLY LISTEN to their story. Guess what ???? They all melded into the one “John” no diff nothin mysterious, nothin my crazy mind had believed in my most manipulated days with cheater… NOTHIN but sleaze, emptiness, evil …. The many Gollums of Ashley Maddison and Gleeden.

Mehphista
Mehphista
8 years ago

It just illustrates the usual cheater arrogance – they are too special and shiny to get caught (in their tiny minds). Reminds me of the old advice never to publish or share information you wouldn’t want read in front of your granny at church……..

moving forward
moving forward
8 years ago

My reaction is ‘meh’ and….. people, please stop believing the hype that on-line dating is a 100% proven way to find your soul mate and true love.

I think society is pretty naive to believe that married cheaters are only on AM. Or that AM is a gold standard of anything. The truth is that cheaters are on regular dating sites and are likely on multiple sites.

My EX was on a popular regular dating site at the time. I discovered it the usual way1) his credit card bill and 2) his emails. His excuse was that he had posted it for his newly divorced best friend. I was at my spackling best back then.

On-line dating is big business. And, it is only as good as we believe it to be.

In my singledom, I have tried on-line dating and its no cake walk: fake profiles, stale profiles, scammers from Nigeria, scammers from other countries, married (some openly), coupled but wanting out, etc. I requested that ‘Match’ remove my profile after I was getting approached by a lot of scammers. Their response was that it’s not their policy to remove profiles before the membership has expired.

The cynic in me, says this will make the AM business even stronger. Go figure.

newchumpatl
newchumpatl
8 years ago
Reply to  moving forward

Agreed totally. AM is just one tool in the cheating arsenal.

Lost2015
Lost2015
8 years ago

I’m not going to bother looking for the list. My computer will probably end up with a virus anyway. Fortunately I didn’t get one from my wife, so I’m not going to push my luck.

sara
sara
8 years ago
Reply to  Lost2015

“I’m not going to bother looking for the list. My computer will probably end up with a virus anyway. Fortunately I didn’t get one from my wife…” LoLost!

newchumpatl
newchumpatl
8 years ago
Reply to  Lost2015

Cut your losses and move on. I like it!!!!

LadyStrange
LadyStrange
8 years ago
Reply to  Lost2015

That’s funny Lost….

Tempest
Tempest
8 years ago

A cautionary note–some (though probably very few) of the names on that list could be innocent. My X started an Adult Friend Finder account for me years ago, without my approval*,and posted a picture of me in lingerie (that had been taken for his own private use). Why? Because the sex-addled jackass was titillated by the thought that I could be talked into having sex with another man while he watched. I shut down that nonsense pretty quickly once I found out, but I know other members of CN have sicko Xs who wanted their chumps to have sex with others, and it’s not a far cry to think some of them created accounts for their chumps behind the chump’s back.

CalamityJane
CalamityJane
8 years ago
Reply to  Tempest

First person I checked was his, Tempest. Then mine. Damn right they could use you. Nothing new there.

Woodeye was swearing it was only massage prostitutes and nothing else for one year and a half after I threw his sorry ass out. I knew better, but nothing like a little confirmation to shore up what I already know.

Tempest
Tempest
8 years ago
Reply to  CalamityJane

Just checked–Hannibal Lecher is on the list, too!! (though it includes AM and Adult Friend Finder addresses)

Tempest
Tempest
8 years ago
Reply to  CalamityJane

So you found his name? Mega-Loser. Had he created an account for you, too?

CalamityJane
CalamityJane
8 years ago
Reply to  Tempest

No. If he did, I think you would have to lock me up and sedate me until I came to my senses.

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  Tempest

*shudder*

I also have this nagging fear that Florence, in one of her many moments of clarity, created a fake account in my name. It would make no sense but, then again, neither does stalking me.

Tempest
Tempest
8 years ago
Reply to  ChumpyElf

Flwhorence has some serious issues, probably exacerbated by her twu wuv (your H) not being able to complete the act due to plumbing issues.

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  Tempest

That’s what the Viagrialis cocktail is for! His stash is gone so I guess they must have had lots of fun bc I sure wasn’t ;O

SoloIsScrewed
SoloIsScrewed
8 years ago

When you profit off of the pain of others, you deserve everything that is coming your way.

What? What’s that you say, Noel…..? You TRUSTED your employees and your security guys to protect your profits?!

There is that darned concept again. TRUST. The men and women in relationships with these douchebags trusted the douchebags as well. Sucks when the standard that applies only to you is afforded to everyone, eh?

Over on zerohedge you can find the direct link to the torrent. I have already downloaded it.

The thing that is so ironic is that Biderman and his posse are saying that the hacktivists did this for fun, and because they can.

Isnt that exactly what Trashley Madison, et al lure the initiated in with? Life is short, have an affair…..because its fun….because you can.

Damn I love the Karma Bus.

LiningUpDucks
LiningUpDucks
8 years ago
Reply to  SoloIsScrewed

Exactly, Solo. Can’t argue with Karma!

SoloIsScrewed
SoloIsScrewed
8 years ago
Reply to  SoloIsScrewed

There is also a very interesting comment by MiffedMicrobiologist (who is a woman) over at ZH….she said that false positives or mistaken STD results are an infraction so serious in her lab that it can preclude you from ever working again. Why? Even with corrected results or clarification/retraction, marriages are destroyed over it.

So those here saying that “nothing will come of it”…I think that is completely misguided. The seeds of doubt have been planted in the spouse’s head, in the head of friends and family, in those of colleagues/bosses and potential employers.

Doubt can destroy lives, careers and relationships. Proof doesnt need to be there. Human nature doesnt work that way.

That information is now out there. FOREVER. Scrubbing the internet does not exist in any form, no matter what anybody tells you. That same dark web also has urls that save your webblog even if you take it down.

Anybody who thinks its funny or interesting to go and sign up for these things out of curiosity or revenge…you need to understand that not everybody is your friend. If you have made absolutely no enemies in your life, and everybody who has ever met you is just in love with you….i think you will be okay. I for one am a realist. I do not want my kids to EVER look up my name on the internet and find something like this attached to it….let alone my boss or that bitch down the cubicle row who has hated me for years.

Word to the wise.

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago

Good point Tempest! And again it confirms the fact that as soon as you know your spouse/SO is cheating, you should take every action to protect yourself because you just have no idea what else they are up to.

LiningUpDucks
LiningUpDucks
8 years ago

Noel B. gets all that is coming to him. And the cheaters, too. And I hope some chumps find the evidence they need to have the courage to leave.

Also, I hope it makes people think twice about using these slimy, creepy websites/apps for hookups.

not Juliet
not Juliet
8 years ago

I guarantee my ex won’t be on there cause he’s too damn cheap. Free crotch all the way, baby !

Uniquelyme
Uniquelyme
8 years ago
Reply to  not Juliet

not Juliet, I thought the exact same thing about cheater ex!

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago

I honestly don’t know why these creeps pay for a service to “hook up”. My cheater and his Schmoopie just used FaceBook! Looked to me like Schmoopie found all her “hook ups” on FB. My idiot EX was just the perfect sucker for her. I’ve no doubt she is or will be back at it on FaceBook again!

sassiernow
sassiernow
8 years ago

I don’t understand the “dark web” or even know what it is, and the AM site has not been part of my experience. I’m all for exposing cheaters but shouldn’t we all worry more about these hackers and what info they can find on us? As in credit card numbers etc.? That’s my biggest fear.

Also, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that people have registered on AM using the email addresses of completely innocent and unaware friends or family members.

This whole thing makes me really uncomfortable.

Char
Char
8 years ago

You know what? Karma visits the deserving in myriad ways. As Gus McCrae said to his friend Jake Spoon right before hanging him “You know how it works Jake, you ride with an outlaw, you die with an outlaw. I’m sorry you crossed the line.”

As far as I’m concerned – if you put your personal information and credit cards on a website dedicated to cheating on your spouse/family, then you deserve to be electronically “hung.” I’m sorry they crossed the line.

sassiernow
sassiernow
8 years ago
Reply to  Char

Char, I agree. However, I use my cards on line for a lot of things and what concerns me is the ease with which someone can find my information. That was my point.

Beth
Beth
8 years ago

Well this is really great news. Yes, it is sad for the faithful spouses and the kids. My heart goes out to every single one of them. I was just reading that some MP from Scotland has HER name on it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3203534/My-harvested-hackers-says-SNP-MP-included-list-millions-Ashley-Madison-users-released-massive-hack-infidelity-website.html

Now for the owner of the site. I can care less what he “thinks” about this. Also his wife that supports all of this also. People have really lost their minds or I guess the owner of the site and his wife are just as disorder ftards like the users of these types of sites.

I don’t think the ex will be on there because his type of playground with finding his Schmoopies was work. Then again really nothing surprises me when it comes to him and his disordered ways.

I do admit I would LOVE to know if he is on there. Does anyone know if there is a site that has this information on it?

Also I’m thinking Chump Lady and Chump Nation can be expecting some new members in the next few days and/or weeks. Oh can recall the pain in full detail what they will be having to deal with. My heart goes out to every single one.

Kate50
Kate50
8 years ago
Reply to  Beth

I was thinking the same Beth, CL will probably have an influx of new chumps sadly, but better here than what else is out there for support. 🙁

Michael
Michael
8 years ago

Moral judge and juror? Do these people hear themselves? Here they are, imposing their own brand of morality, or should I say immorality, on unsuspecting spouses and now they have their own accusations. If there is no objective morality then how is AM able to make such a statement? It proves that they are not able to live by their own twisted principal and that, when it suits them, believe in some sort of morality. They can say all the BS they want but this prove they can’t live it out. How self-incriminating their own statement is.

Hey AM, who are you to say that it was wrong what these hackers did? You’ve just appointed yourselves the moral judge and juror. Congratulations! You’ve just failed your own BS.

Roberta
Roberta
8 years ago
Reply to  Michael

Michael, Agree! The irony of it all!!

Kimberly
Kimberly
8 years ago

I personally think it’s fantastic and wonderful! Good. It’s about time – As far as AM is concerned, your right CL – blame shifting. Scrubbed data nevermind that look at the shiny light… GAWD….

GladIt'sOver
GladIt'sOver
8 years ago

I’m revealing my naivety here, but how would anyone know who the actual people are in the hacked data? I’m assuming that AM members used profile names, not their own, so wouldn’t the hacked data be stuff like “DertyGuy67” or some such? So how would anyone know who DertyGuy really is?

not Juliet
not Juliet
8 years ago
Reply to  GladIt'sOver

Glad it’s over, you have to supply your real name to sign up. Plus men have to give credit card info.

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  not Juliet

And women, too….

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  ChumpyElf

Wait, I just reread that, only the men have to supply credit card info?

not Juliet
not Juliet
8 years ago
Reply to  ChumpyElf

I’m pretty sure women don’t supply credit card info cause they are always “free”. The man pays, even if the woman contacts them I think.

WhereisMia
WhereisMia
8 years ago
Reply to  not Juliet

Women do not provide credit card details it’s free.

Tempest
Tempest
8 years ago
Reply to  WhereisMia

Though if women paid to have their accounts deleted, credit card information would be in there.

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  not Juliet

Ah, I get it. That’s how Match etc used to be 12 years ago, too.

ChutesandLadders
ChutesandLadders
8 years ago

And here I thought the “dark internet” was only a plot point on House of Cards!

How ironic that all these cheater’s lies are about to implode on them, not unlike when a house of cards falls apart!

uneffingbelievable
uneffingbelievable
8 years ago

Hey, Noel? Why don’t you get a dictionary and look up the word “virtue”? No opinion about it. And while you’re flipping the pages, look up “fuckface”. Your photo is right next to THAT definition.

sadsong
sadsong
8 years ago

A side note: Jared, the Subway guy, got arrested for having sex with 2 16 year olds. His wife is divorcing him.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/us/subway-jared-fogle-charges/index.html

not Juliet
not Juliet
8 years ago
Reply to  sadsong

Ugh, that Jared story is so disgusting. Hope he gains all his weight back too. At least his wife is divorcing him. Creep.

ChumpyElf
ChumpyElf
8 years ago
Reply to  not Juliet

His first wife was the sweet girl in all those documentaries who was with him in the early days. i agree, this whole story is just disgusting.

Deb McKenzie
Deb McKenzie
8 years ago

“Impose their notion of virtue” hmmm. Im tripping on that line. Could cheating possible be an alternative virtue? I thought virtues are pretty cut and dried. Pretty well defined and explained. I do understand that I don’t possess or live up to every virtue, but I know for example that honesty is a virtue, even as I’m telling a lie. The world of cheaters is so freaking delusional, and boundaries are just a moving target.

onwardandupward
onwardandupward
8 years ago

Truth is a wonderful thing. I am a big fan of the truth. Please let me know when there is a searchable database. People who would lie to their spouses would also lie to their constituencies and should not be in elected office

JJ
JJ
8 years ago

Who is posting as JJ on this thread?? I’ve been using this name for over a year now.

FYI, the leak is real. I joined 2 years ago to see what all the fuss was about, it was so disgusting, I couldn’t believe how many guys were on in my area, which isn’t a hugely populated city by the way. Uggh..

Anyway, I found this link,,…https://ashleymadisonleakeddata.com/check/

and searched a few of my email addresses, and the one I had used to register and then removed, has been leaked. How funny!

Tempest
Tempest
8 years ago
Reply to  JJ

LadyStrange beat me to it. Here is the message on that site now:

” 🙁
I created this site as I believed that users should have the right to know if their email and data was compromised. Unfortunately I received a takedown notice so I will be shutting down this site, sorry for the inconvenience.

See About for contact info, I will not answer requests about the data or checking emails.”

LiningUpDucks
LiningUpDucks
8 years ago
Reply to  JJ

I put in an email of a friend’s husband (she has known that her husband has sent inappropriate emails to women, but doesn’t think he has cheated), and it turned up as being in AM. Do I tell her? They just last week decided to divorce.

not Juliet
not Juliet
8 years ago
Reply to  LiningUpDucks

I would tell her. It might help in the divorce, and it works definitely help her trust that he sucks. And truthfully to me, stuff like trolling the internet for strange is much creepier than trolling co workers, neighbors, etc. That’s just me. Prostitutes, Craigslist, dating sites, etc. I would be much more pissed.

LadyStrange
LadyStrange
8 years ago
Reply to  not Juliet

The link has been removed

JJ
JJ
8 years ago
Reply to  LiningUpDucks

Maybe send her the link to check herself?