Twu Wuv Vows?

Dear Chump Lady,

Six years ago I went full out marriage CSI detective and uncovered a long term, on and off affair my then-wife had been having. It was a sprawling, traumatic mess for my children and me. Many narcissist-fueled crimes against truth and empathy were committed that are all too familiar to this blog’s readers. I’m grateful to have divorced quickly and headed in the right direction.

My ex and her affair partner were a match; both married cheaters with children and both conveniently oblivious to the path of destruction they left. Benevolent narcissists who are masters at blame shifting, martyrdom and image management.

Her vacant Trivago-dude affair partner went back multiple times to his wife for years until he divorced and moved in with my ex into what my friends call ‘the unholy union’. Recently they got married. How nice I didn’t need to deal, unlike my kids who had to suffer through it.

If I allow myself to waste even more brain cycles on the life-wasting task of trying to figure her out six years later, I am mostly left slack-jawed, bemused and at a loss. WTF people? Cheater commitment?

Here is the STD-laden, oxymoronic, zen koan cheater “what is the sound of one hand clapping” question for everyone…

What vows would be exchanged at a cheater wedding?

Chumpion

Dear Chumpion,

Thanks for the Fun Friday Challenge. Good question. “Forsaking all others” might be met with a snigger. So what kind ow word salad could they toss?

With this pop-top I thee wed?

For better and worse… providing “worse” doesn’t include extra baby weight, cross-eyed children, unemployment, dusty baseboards, discovering my cheating, mentioning my cheating…

Til Tinder do us part?

Really, maybe we should just chuck this whole vow thing and go right to the dance floor and presents. I don’t know, Nat, this is a real conundrum. CN — got any “vows” to share?

TGIF!

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susan devlin
susan devlin
5 years ago

My exs vows, pretending to be sick, fake suicide, ow terrible lies, trying to dump kids on Xmas day, sti. We broke up 5 yrs ago, still won’t fuck off, sad bitch

noonenowhere
noonenowhere
5 years ago
Reply to  susan devlin

I promise to create drama and then tell you that you are sensitive. I promise I will pretend to love you and then haha! Jokes on you mother f*****

Lucky
Lucky
5 years ago

This is timely for me. X Sinister Minister is marrying Miss Piggy Minister in the summer.

The drama of this entire event is mind boggling…..

My poor kids are dealing with crazy pants and her Celtic Cowboy themed wedding of over 300 people.

I promise to be faithful that you know of – forsaking all others until you figure my shit out?!?

I promise to always be right, all the time, forever and ever, Amen.

Since promises mean so little to both of these disordered folks, why bother to tie the knot?

Oh yes, wedding kibbles, centrality and fantasy happily ever after!

I have my popcorn and am sitting comfortably ( a safe distance away ) by and watching.

unicornomore
unicornomore
5 years ago
Reply to  Lucky

Well the time for them to let their twu wuv shine has finally come after all these years. You and I and Patsy have all seen it coming like a slow moving storm. Im glad you have your own life and Im hoping you are well into Meh.

I totally got your comment the other day about you and kids being a beard. I am not far from that…polite, nurse and mommy…perfect front for a fuckity fuck side show…and how he loved to brag to his parents about how well I kept our home. Blech

Its good to know you Lucky !! Sometime me & Patsy have to show you the pictures of our IRL meet up

Egans
Egans
5 years ago
Reply to  Lucky

A leprechaun on a unicorn! Ye-haw- diddly-doodly!
What class????

strongwoman
strongwoman
5 years ago
Reply to  Egans

Thanks for that. I’m laughing out loud just picturing a leprechaun on a unicorn! Trust that they suck!

Brenda
Brenda
5 years ago
Reply to  Lucky

Celtic cowboy themed? I’ll have to Google that. ????????‍♀️

NotAfraid
NotAfraid
5 years ago
Reply to  Brenda

Celtic Cowboy? Sorry, but there’s not enough nope in the universe. @Lucky, I’m sorry your kids have to deal with that hot, steaming mess.

Elsa
Elsa
5 years ago
Reply to  NotAfraid

I’m getting it….

Rope – checked
Saddle- checked
As far as the meaning of a Celtic symbols… I admit to googling it, and unfortunately there is nothing related to cheating and being an assholes- on the contrary, lots of values, honor, transparency – basically everything that cheaters don’t have.

Ugh ????

300 people? Wow… but again, twisted logic – the triumph of a “ true love” …. ( with destruction track behind, but who cares?)

MeowMix
MeowMix
5 years ago
Reply to  Elsa

It’s like front row seats to a rattlesnake fight! Yeah, I would go and drink it their free booze!

Bannerman
Bannerman
5 years ago
Reply to  Elsa

Fuck me I’m actually Irish and I can’t figure that one out…green outfits with golden harps and shamrocks….fairies whirling about throwing lucky charms as confetti… leprechaun administering the ‘for now’ vows….I shudder at what we’ve culturally exported to the States….

LVchumped
LVchumped
5 years ago
Reply to  Bannerman

“FOR NOW VOWS”. Total. Awesomeness.

x married the mistress in her home country of Japan and she posted pictures on 10 OCT 18…Last night I received a call on my house phone from some chick in North Dakota (where he was stationed) looking for x…I called him and let him know to keep his “side pieces” away from the kids and I. Again, complete awesomeness. SMDH.

thelongrun
thelongrun
5 years ago
Reply to  LVchumped

Loser. You’re SO much better off w/out him!

Elsa
Elsa
5 years ago
Reply to  Bannerman

But THE TRUE LOVE!!!!!!!!! ????

Gonegilr
Gonegilr
5 years ago
Reply to  Lucky

Celtic Cowboy? What do you wear to that?

risingtide
risingtide
5 years ago
Reply to  Gonegilr

Lord of the Pants. Fiddlers optional.

AlmostThere
AlmostThere
5 years ago
Reply to  Gonegilr

Half chaps and a kilt with peekabo undies optional.

noonenowhere
noonenowhere
5 years ago
Reply to  AlmostThere

I actually believe this is the only sensible attire to this shindig.

Nicelutherangirl
Nicelutherangirl
5 years ago
Reply to  Gonegilr

What else but a tam o’shanter, fringed leather vest, a kilt, and cowboy boots? Irish or Scotch whiskey in one hand, Jack Daniels in the other.

ClearWaters
ClearWaters
5 years ago

‘Til credit card statements loaded-with-expenses-on-flatterfucks-in-spite-of-four-bank-loans-blamed-on-chump do us part

kiwichump
kiwichump
5 years ago
Reply to  ClearWaters

Clearwaters wins today’s challenge!

KB22
KB22
5 years ago
Reply to  ClearWaters

They do not deal well with reality and usually have a partner that takes on the reality burden….but when you have two cheater nitwits not dealing with reality it is sheer entertainment watching that train wreck.

susan devlin
susan devlin
5 years ago

I forgot numerous times in pysch hospital, each time after being with ow, sad bastards. One time pretended to attempt suicide, doc phoned me asking to phone ex, the ow was shouting at him whist in the hospital, then nurse asked me to fetch him clothes, I said no, get the sti infected ow, to do it. Ex is blaming me on phone whist ow is screaming in background.

Gonegirl
Gonegirl
5 years ago

I promise to put up with your narc-filled rages, your mother’s controlling behavior and I promise to become a member of your family’s cult in which I must bow down to your super narcissist mother.

I promise to continue to lie and gas light the children, support your alienation so you can take them from the mother who loves them in order to continue to destroy them.

I promise to look the other way when you spend every little bit of money we have and put us further and further in debt.

And I promise to look the other way when you are cheating on me because I don’t have any other choice but to put up with it because I have no home, no money and I depend on you for everything.

True story y’all! I do not feel the least bit of pity for her. She knew he was a married man with kids and supported his terrible behavior.

Recovering Chump
Recovering Chump
5 years ago

Great question!

I can’t imagine them making ANY promises except maybe, “I will put myself first, always, and enjoy using you while you have something I want.”

Really, they probably think that this time they finally found someone worthy of human decency, because this is twu wuv, and they’ll go ahead and make all the traditional promises. I mean, they would have forsaken all others if they hadn’t married people with impossible standards (honesty, fidelity, respect) the first time.

thelongrun
thelongrun
5 years ago

Stop. You’re speaking truth, and it hurts their ears! Shh…

thelongrun
thelongrun
5 years ago

Nice.

peacekeeper
peacekeeper
5 years ago

^THIS^
Words of wisdom and truth in your post Recovering Chump.
Do other Chumps have trouble listening to a couple say their vows?
I always feel such a big lump in my throat, I struggle to hold back tears from my eyes. When they do fall I pretend they are happy tears, happy for this precious couple, ( my child , my nieces and nephews).
It is just that my own experience has weighted down my heart and my soul.
I mean I once had that look in my eyes, of pure love and devotion. I thought he did too, silly me.
But, still I do wish original unions, promises, vows said, to remain true. With all my heart I do wish this!

In this wedding, in today’s archive, the original words were spoken and broken. The match this time is by default. There is no truth left, there is no integrity. Nope, can’t find anything “real” in this match at all.
The 300 guests are there for the free meal!
A sad HA!

thelongrun
thelongrun
5 years ago
Reply to  peacekeeper

Unexpected chumpiness,

I’m so sorry you’re going through all that when you go to weddings. I haven’t had to deal w/that yet, but I have a feeling I’m going to have at least the lump in my throat. You deserved better, but what can we do? They’re swine, and we have to try to remember that not every couple is doomed, but the swine deserve to lie in the filth.

I’m waiting for the STBXW and her formerly married, cheating partner to get married. I wonder if it will affect me? I know they truly deserve each other. Nobody else deserves them, that’s for sure. Certainly not me, the faithful husband of 24 1/2 years, or his wife of 40 years. We deserve BETTER.

Casabeca
Casabeca
5 years ago
Reply to  peacekeeper

There is so much attention to receive, so many wedding gifts to open, so many toasts and congratulations given. What a narc dream!
Underneath both wedding costumes the true values lurk unspoken.

We promise to Love things.
We promise to Use people.

They may be outwardly “nice” but never really kind.
If they are ministers G-d help us all.

Chumpinrecovery
Chumpinrecovery
5 years ago
Reply to  peacekeeper

I haven’t had to go to a wedding since my marriage blew up but I know it will be exactly the same for me as I can relate to everything you have described. It is hard not to be cynical about marriage and yet my own parents have been happy for well over 50 years now so it must be possible.

unexpectedchumpiness
unexpectedchumpiness
5 years ago

Peacekeeper,

My sister just married her finance yesterday and I was the Maid of Honor, so of course I had to give the Big Toast.
I am truly happy for my sister, they have been together for eight years and they treat each other really well.

It’s a destination wedding so it’s been a few days of family, sentimental feelings, toasts at the family dinner, and then finally the very touching wedding with adorable vows and then my speech (good news for me I was told that I nailed it) and then my older sister sang……by this point tears were dripping from my face like a leaky faucet. I was so happy for them but I just couldn’t help my hurting heart. It was just 5 years ago that I took those same vows. I made all those promises. I kept all those vows. My sparkly, abandoning, blameshifting husband did not. We both had that sparkle in our eyes, until he deemed me Not Good Enough and set his sparkle sights on someone else. But I still had that sparkle in my eyes for him…I hope someday it will fade.

I still see Mr. Abandoner because we have kids. But guys, this hurt my heart so bad. It was so torture to watch all the happiness and merriment that I thought we had and be so happy for my sister, who actually has it, all at the same time. I still feel so painfully alone, discarded, lost and very heart broken. Thank God it was a dry wedding because I probably would have drank away my sorrows and fallen off the boat only to be bobbing around in the Sydney Harbor.

So in honor of that, I will do the Maid of Honor Speech for my abandoning cheater husband and his new wife:

I am so happy that you two have waded through all those lesser people out there and have found each other and stuck around long enough to get to here: your Special Day. Well, he’s had a few of these special days already, but for you young lady, this is probably really special because you think it’s real.

Anyway, you, sweet young doormat, you have got yourself a sparkly one. He will fool you all thinking that he really is just that honest, focused, dedicated twice married and divorced (but those two wives were just big mistakes) young man. He will honor you (mostly) and treat you like a million bucks (until he says the most cutting words to you). But ask his adoring supportive mom, he doesn’t actually mean it, he’s just a double scorpio. He will make your think that you outshine all others, and that you are the most special girl in the world. And you will fall madly and deeply in love with his fake charm. You will be so head over heels in love with Mr. Abandoner so when he starts to devalue you, you’ll excuse it away. He’s just cranky. I mean, he really is better than you, so you probably should fix whatever little (big) thing you did so you’ll be so lucky for him to stick around this time.

And you Mr. Abandoner, I’m so happy that you have waded through all those faulty woman out there to find this perfect (for now) one. Thankfully, you off loaded the first wife, the practice one as you liked to call her. She was so manipulative and despite all the 2.8 years worth of trying so hard for your marriage, alas, it just didn’t work out.

And FEWF, thank GOD you got rid of the second wife (me) because I was so exhausting. Oh, shoot, did you guys remember to add that opt out part to your vows? Nevermind, I’m sure your new bride will fail at something minor so you can leave her. Anyways, thankfully after we had our kids and I weighed 15 lbs more than before you got rid of my very subpar self and found this stunner. Her body will never gain weight or age, so once again, totally #worthit. And yes, after trying and exhausting yourself dealing with my suckyself for the the VERY LONG and painful 3 wedded years, you were thankfully able to offload her as well. Like gum on your shoe, yuck.

So, to all our image-managed friends and family, I’d like to raise our glasses and toast this love-bombed lady and this narcissistic man who have joined together today spouting a bunch of nonsense about their commitment to each other. I hope they live in happily faked wedding bliss together……..until they don’t. Don’t worry sweetheart, you’ll never know it’s coming.

Cheers!

peacekeeper
peacekeeper
5 years ago

unexpectedchumpiness,
I typed a long heartfelt response to you and it disappeared.
I have to try to be brief in something I am so passionate about.
YOU are a truly beautiful person.
As a Chump who pick me danced, he stayed, ( for unhonorable reasons – pregnant wife me and small child- he lacked the guts to tell ow about the early pregnancy, my belief).
YOU are a beautiful person, with true kindness, integrity and true love for your children, your sisters, your family.
Your cheater possesses no good qualities. He is dirt in your rear view mirror.
Please hold your head high, stay MIGHTY!
One day you will find a true prince who will cherish your wonderful, loving way. I truly feel that in my heart.
I send you love and true understanding.
Have to stop before my reply disappears, again.

unexpectedchumpiness
unexpectedchumpiness
5 years ago
Reply to  peacekeeper

Damn,

I would have loved to read your heartfelt response, but sometimes the Gods of cyberspace have other plans for our posts.

Yesterday was a tough day. I am sorry your world fell apart because of a cheating asshole. There is some solace in hearing that even though you stayed in your marriage it still fell apart as I keep wondering “what if? what if I had figured out he was unhappy could I have fixed it? what if I just never let him go out of town that weekend? what if I had….?

I have slowly but surely realized that I’m still valuable and wonderful. I see my other friends and family that are still married despite gaining weight, money problems, failures, tragedies, etc. They found reasons to stay vs. excuses to leave. He found excuses to leave, and honestly, they’re not even good excuses.

His mother even told me “I don’t know that he’s going to find a better woman than you.”

It took me a long to time to really realize that I don’t suck like he made me out to, but that he is truely a flipping idiot. All my friends agree.

Guess my heart needs to catch up with my head.

unexpectedchumpiness
unexpectedchumpiness
5 years ago

It meant to read…..

Peacekeeper,

Damn!

grammar and punctuation lol

GetMeFree
GetMeFree
5 years ago

I am a little jaded, too, now. But seeing couples who get it right (parents married for 53 years) is evidence that it is possible. Just makes fixing my picker even more important. Love does NOT conquer all…especially narcissism.

Attie
Attie
5 years ago

In sickness and in health (he didn’t bother to mention that my hospital visits for “sickness” would be when he put me there with his beatings). For richer, for poorer (oh let’s overlook the fact that he ran up over $300,000 of debt on his toys and his drink/drive accidents that chumpy me had to take on in order to get my divorce). Forsaking all others. Ha, ha, sorry. Give me a minute ha, ha …. sorry, you’ll just have to go on without me .. ha, ha, ha ….

thelongrun
thelongrun
5 years ago
Reply to  Attie

You always think you have it bad until you hear that “other story.” I am so sorry you had to deal w/that. I hope you’re well on the road to a better place. You certainly deserve to be.

Mitz
Mitz
5 years ago
Reply to  Attie

I’m so sorry that you ever met such a person. 🙁

Attie
Attie
5 years ago
Reply to  Mitz

So am I but I am pretty much at meh now thank God.

Casabeca
Casabeca
5 years ago
Reply to  Mitz

Ditto!

Kintsugi
Kintsugi
5 years ago

How about, “I vow to never cheat on you with my spouse.”

Nomorecamping
Nomorecamping
5 years ago
Reply to  Kintsugi

Lol. The OW thinks she’s so special while her married boyfriend says how abused he is at home, the wife is so mean, etc. And then he goes home and sleeps with his unsuspecting wife. The OW is cheated on from the start and they think they have stolen such a prize. The joke is on them from the getgo.

NewBoundaries
NewBoundaries
5 years ago
Reply to  Nomorecamping

Actually, in my case, I had 30 years of marriage and was blindsided. But when he came back for a kibbles refill she was incensed with him that he cheated on HER! Demanding an apology and explanation ????.

Annette
Annette
5 years ago
Reply to  NewBoundaries

The ho-worker OW in my case said “enjoy fucking your wife. What do i want you to do about it? Nothing. There is nothing I want you to do about it. Anyways you promised me kids”
WTF ? She realised she was cheated on from the start for 2.5 years and doesn’t care then emotionally blackmails?? That was my final Dday. Married 10 yrs. Two kids 10 and 8. OW 15 years younger.

Chumptopia
Chumptopia
5 years ago
Reply to  Nomorecamping

Isn’t that the truth? The OW in my case had no idea that her ‘boyfriend’ was in bed with the unsuspecting ME every night. I was never so blindsided or sucker punched in my life. I thought we had a great marriage. I had no idea I was married to a sociopath. She thinks she got a real person. Hahahaha Jokes on her. She’s no more special than all the other women he’s fucked around on. Absolutely baffling that she thinks she has the platinum pussy that will change that leopard’s spots. Ha!

thelongrun
thelongrun
5 years ago
Reply to  Chumptopia

Platinum pussy! That’s great! It reminds me of a line from Richard Russo’s book The Risk Pool. It was something like, “my father said my mother thought she had the only pussy in town.” He was describing the main character’s father, a cheating, sort-of deadbeat post-World War II dad, but I really like how you applied something close to it in this scenario.

Two Awesome Sons; One Amazing Daughter
Two Awesome Sons; One Amazing Daughter
5 years ago

I’ve never thought about it before, but I can imagine that when my ex partner, cheating father of my daughter, eventually got married, either he crossed his fingers behind his back or simply made her say all the vows. She seems like a nice person. I happen to know, through what a third party discovered and reported to me, that he has (or at least had several years ago) “a woman in every port.”

I know through our daughter that there was marital trouble a few years ago, and he actually had moved out, but I don’t talk to him these days, and our daughter has not heard from her father in many years, either. (Great guy, eh?) So, I don’t know if they are even still together.

All I know is that I’m happy not to be in his orbit. He decimated me, decimated my life and my sense of self. I’ve rebuilt, and I love my current life. It’s not without its challenges, but, I have a deep faith in God, and great kids, and loving parents who are still alive. I have a husband who works his tail off for us. I have a menagerie of adorable animals who flock to me when I walk in the door. I live an honest life, full of love and laughter. Although I wish her dad would make our daughter a real part of his life, I don’t miss the condescending, entitled, narcissistic personality traits!

Chumpinrecovery
Chumpinrecovery
5 years ago

Until death do us part or until I become dissatisfied with my life and run out of other people, places and things to blame and need a scape goat for everything that’s gone wrong.

Love honor and cherish until I discover that you have imperfections. Why should I have to settle for less? I’m entitled to the best.

For Better and for Worse. That’s for you not me. I’m entitled to go off in pursuit of something better because I’m feeling a little down and you can’t fix it.

Chumpinrecovery
Chumpinrecovery
5 years ago

Oops. Those are the cheater vows to each other, those were the vows ex was evidently saying in his head when we got married, or perhaps that’s just the way he interpreted them later.

Chumpinrecovery
Chumpinrecovery
5 years ago

Sorry, are not the cheater vows to each other.

brit
brit
5 years ago

I’m sure these are the same vows my Cheater said to himself the day we married, or how he decided to interpret them later.

Everything is up to their interpretation, the marriage, victim status, great guy image, we’re just friends, Chump, you have an active imagination, no, I’m not that kind of guy.
We weren’t getting along…,

Velvet Hammer ????????❤️
Velvet Hammer ????????❤️
5 years ago

Wedding vows are fresh on my mind as yesterday was anniversary #21.

I think he thought the vows were “FUCKING all others”…..

I say forsaking, you say fucking, let’s call the whole thing off.

The marriage is over but the awesome bakery that made my wedding cake is still there (Katrina Rozelle in Oakland, CA). My daughter and I went there late yesterday afternoon and had cake for dinner. We had them write “Happy UnAnniversary”
on it. She said the day before how she and I are like a rainbow when it comes to feelings because we express all of them, and that her dad is like autumn…red and yellow….angry or pretending to be happy.
My main thoughts yesterday were how profoundly grateful I feel that my side of the street is clean when I think of her.

Thank you again also to the fellow chump for my Un-anniversary present, the Andre Malraux quote,

“Man is not what he thinks he is; he is what he hides.”

This has NEUTRALIZED the mindfuck of my “nice guy” husband who cheated, which has messed with me for almost a year. There is now peace and silence where that painful mindfuck used to be.

HomeBound
HomeBound
5 years ago

Velvet, I am really glad you did this thing to disarm any hidden landmine waiting for you on your “UnAnniversary Day”. Good for you.

After I read that the quote helped you, I really felt, for the first time in a long time, that my attitude might have helped someone. The quote came to me from a friend at work, when I was literally drowning in obsession over “why”.

I was told, why does it matter what he says he is? He showed you with his actions. The secrets and the lies are WHO HE IS. Is this okay for you?

Clearly, it’s not. It is as painful as a motherfucker, like CL says, but I can’t change who he is, no more than I can change who I am. I am caring and kind, smart and funny, loyal and loving. He isn’t. And that’s not okay.

I hope you had Red Velvet Cake. 🙂

peacekeeper
peacekeeper
5 years ago

Velvet Hammer,
Cake for dinner!
YOU and your Daughter are so MIGHTY!!
????❤️????

Velvet Hammer ????????❤️
Velvet Hammer ????????❤️
5 years ago

PS..

VOW is not in the cheater playbook….

There is no honor among thieves.

AlmostThere
AlmostThere
5 years ago

They don’t adhere to Vows. They have caveats they do not reveal unless the chump discovers them. Once the caveats are known, holy cow the rationalizations and entitlements spew forth.

Got-a-brain
Got-a-brain
5 years ago

Marriage is a commitment that means today you have my heart ….
Tomorrow when I’m on Tinder, that love may fall apart.
I’m ready, willing, and able to do what it takes…
Until I’m not, and I whip out a laundry list of every one of your mistakes mistakes.
Tallied in my head are the kibbles you throw me…
I know you’ll work hard to give me more, than the women who bone me.
In my dreams I see you dancing and
Giving me no strife,
In my head you have no needs, that makes you the perfect wife!
Today I commit to pulling the wool over your eye.
When you discover my deception, I’ll fill your head with lies.
The gaslighting tango we two will do, until I finally grow tired of you!

AnnieW
AnnieW
5 years ago
Reply to  Got-a-brain

So good.

MeowMix
MeowMix
5 years ago
Reply to  Got-a-brain

^winner^

unicornomore
unicornomore
5 years ago
Reply to  Got-a-brain

Wonderful GOB !!

Got-a-brain
Got-a-brain
5 years ago
Reply to  Got-a-brain

(Last line edit) The gaslighting tango we two shall do, until the day I finally grow tired of you!

Chumpful
Chumpful
5 years ago
Reply to  Got-a-brain

So good!

Patsy
Patsy
5 years ago

I, cheater, take thee, shiny and new,
to have and to hold – all the time it suits me,
from this day forward – for the time being, I might find better,
for better – fuck that worse shit,
NOT in sickness – why should I? in health – stay beautiful now!,
for richer – I don’t do poor, you cause me any problems and I am off,
to love and to cherish – only when it feels good, you are here for the sole purpose to make me feel good, right?
till death – who’s talking about death? I am going to live FOREVER!
and I pledge myself to you until such time as I don’t.

Amen.

Chumpacha
Chumpacha
5 years ago
Reply to  Patsy

Just wonderful
The description of my soon to be ex husband’s vows.

unicornomore
unicornomore
5 years ago
Reply to  Patsy

Yes Patsy.

However, I sure that if he had lived to marry Susan of Seattle, their vows would include

“To perform whatever mental gymnastics are needed so that we can blissfully blame Uni for every problem we have even long after she is out of our lives”. If your STBX ever marries again, Im sure that clause will be in his vows.

AlnosttoMeh
AlnosttoMeh
5 years ago

My STBXH (next court date 10-23-18) I know plans to marry his coworker AP, who is also married right now still (I found the love letters talking about marriage). He treats me like I’m garbage (married 15 years, 2 kids) and that he is SO fucking happy with his choices he can’t wait to start his new life. Two Wuv after all!
It’s so hurtful and I need to read the archives about this this weekend. Yeah, I wouldn’t be shocked if they got married the week after the divorce is final.

Eilonwy
Eilonwy
5 years ago
Reply to  AlnosttoMeh

He isn’t happy, he’s high. Try to think of all that starry-eyed babbling you are forced to witness as the side-effect of his addiction. If it really were heroine, you’d understand not to be envious of it, but all kinds of myths in our society let your jackass EX frame his narcissistic abuse as “happiness.”

I hope his high collapses quickly, but even more, I hope you begin to have some “meh” in your life so that you just don’t care if he’s gleeful or depressed about his terrible choices. I’ve spent my own hours lost in the CL archives–they are a godsend when we need to see maps for ways out and reinforcement of our own self-esteem and character.

Phoenix
Phoenix
5 years ago
Reply to  AlnosttoMeh

Im sorry. My ex-wife is still seeing her married AP but STILL they are lying, lying, lying to one and all that they’re not. (I can’t figure out that part.)
The kids on both sides are caught in the middle. His kids see proof b/c of his recklessness as hers texts come through professing her love for him while his young boy plays on his phone. Pictures of her breasts are discovered by his 11 yr old daughter – pics of breasts of a woman she sees is not her mother on her daddy’s phone – what a tool!
It’s been a year since D-day and divorced in may. Im still a wreck…

GratefullyDivorcedDad
GratefullyDivorcedDad
5 years ago
Reply to  Phoenix

Phoenix,

Hang in there, bud. I was there, too. You feel as though you’re walking through life like a zombie, but it DOES get better. In fact, once you’re free from the daily maelstrom you will actually have days that begin to feel like a new normal without the pain.

In the meantime be kind to yourself. Treat yourself like you would treat someone with PTSD. I also found that doing small kindnesses for others, even strangers, helped to lift my mood.

You’re on the right path. Keep moving forward.

NewBoundaries
NewBoundaries
5 years ago
Reply to  Phoenix

Phoenix
What a nightmare and a runaway train barreling down the track. It sounds like it all exploded on you and disintegrated at hyper speed. It’s early days still, and you will get so much better. But it’s a slow process. Hang on, you have been mighty. You deserve so much better than that.

Manna
Manna
5 years ago

My ex is getting remarried. He’s a serial cheater. I have reason to believe he’s cheated on new woman as well (I discovered he was cheating on her in my post divorce, but still stalking stage. I was still a chump then. Thank you Jesus and CLN for pulling me out of that place and bringing me to the land of “Meh, it’s not my problem anymore”. 🙂

He says new woman knows of his “demons”. By demons he must be referring to the dozen or so women he duped into believing he was a victim just so he could enjoy cake.
What woman would marry this? Who would willingly enter into a relationship with a KNOWN SERIAL CHEATER? What kind of life is that?

“I promise to love you…. and all your other girlfriends”
“I vow to be a faithful wife to you….. and to your hidden personalities I won’t uncover for years.”
“I vow to be your faithful husband….but only when we are in the same room together. All the other times I’ll do who and what I want”
“I will cherish you….as long as you give me cake and pick me dance everyday”

oldcrone
oldcrone
5 years ago
Reply to  Tracy Schorn

Sister wives! Apparently, according to our (useless) first therapist, Mr. Magoo believed he was polyamorous/polygamous. He was informed by the therapist that all members of such relationships are aware of the others. Mr. Magoo skipped the part where he told ME that WE had a polygamous relationship with POS OW and that they had “married” a decade ago, while he and I were married (30+ years at that point). Believe me, I would never have willingly entered into a relationship that included her or any sharing of him. Unfortunately, she was more than happy to share with me (her STDS, that is).
I only regret that his secret “marriage” ceremony with her didn’t turn into the Red Wedding, wiping out both them and the gang of shit heels that were in attendance.

It Ain't Me
It Ain't Me
5 years ago
Reply to  Manna

She probably thinks he has changed. That things will be ‘different’ with her. He’s probably treating her like a princess, lying to her face & she can’t fathom the possibility that he would do that to her. Plus, I’m sure these demons he has are everyone else’s fault – so what little he has shared has only been to garner sympathy and paint him as a victim of circumstance.

They are master manipulators – I’d be shocked if she has all the facts right now.

unicornomore
unicornomore
5 years ago
Reply to  Manna

It is like the women who date Tiger Woods…why in HELL would anyone want that nastiness? (OK, there is money, but NOT WORTH IT!!)

Incredible
Incredible
5 years ago
Reply to  unicornomore

There are plenty of women who could give a shit if someone is a major douche bag cheater as long as the guy has money. They don’t have souls either.

Chumpinrecovery
Chumpinrecovery
5 years ago
Reply to  Manna

That last: I will cherish you until you stumble in your dance because I failed to lead (communicate what I wanted).

Rebecca
Rebecca
5 years ago

No vows for my ex – his Facebook status is divorced!
They’ve been fucking for at least 15 years. He’s divorced for 5 years. We were married for 30 years.
That must be lovely for OW. She’s never been married and she doesn’t even rate an “in a relationship” status!

KarenK
KarenK
5 years ago
Reply to  Rebecca

Maybe she’ll get the “in a relationship” status with the one of the other side guys she probably has… she can only dream. hahaha

Zmichelle
Zmichelle
5 years ago

This is great! My ex marries his cheater partner next week. I saw one of the wedding invitations and the purple and pink lacy thing actually asked people to join them as they began their happily ever after. So here’s my take…
“As we begin our lives based on the foundation of having stolen somebody else’s Once Upon a Time, I promise to love, honor and cherish you when it’s convenient for the sake of my own reputation and the ability to sleep through the night without you hounding me for being an ass.”
Her version better damn well go something like this…
“I think back to that day that I determined I would claim you as my husband even though we were both in long-term marriages with six children between us. I’m grateful for this chance to stand here with you publicly and claim you as my own, just like I did when I called up your then-wife and told her that I intended to marry you someday because I was the better woman.”

Leonidis
Leonidis
5 years ago
Reply to  Zmichelle

The shit storm they are setting up for themselves! LOL!!! I like to look a little farther ahead. Al these people who will attend? The Switzerlands from down the block. The 2nd wave of new family and friends whom were privy to the beginning of the abomination. What will they think or say to each other about the very likely demise of this new union? What I wouldn’t give to be a fly on many walls. Not to figure it out. Just for PURE entertainment value.

brit
brit
5 years ago
Reply to  Leonidis

Leonidis, I laughed imagining the list of attendees and well wishers. The Switzerlands from down the street, I have several of those who have taken it upon themselves to inform me they’ve never seen Cheater happier.

The 2nd wave of new family and friends whom were privy to the beginning of the abomination, offering support, “yes, you deserve to be happy Cheater.”
Welcome to the family,
We never did like Chump ( if it wasn’t for me none of you would have received a birthday card for the last 25 years).

Rebecca
Rebecca
5 years ago
Reply to  Zmichelle

Ouch!
A real prize of a woman who could actually make a phone call like that.
????

Zmichelle
Zmichelle
5 years ago
Reply to  Rebecca

And silly me, it STILL took me six more months to walk out.

Drew
Drew
5 years ago
Reply to  Zmichelle

“Better woman…” ???? No, not a truth at all. When X married his AP I actually laughed. Nothing says I made a mistake better than a quick marriage. Karma right there folks! It just goes to show you that Cheaters lack character when their choices seem always to be “let’s do whatever feels good.” I imagine their union to be one of doubt, especially after “new” wears off, and-bonus!-they both know they are capable of cheating (and with great skill) when life hands them challenges. I can’t even imagine the vows they came up with to gloss over that fact!

hollowbunny
hollowbunny
5 years ago

I promise that you are the love of my life, my soul mate. I’ve said this vow every time I’ve been married, and I mean it for sure.

The buzzing in the congregation is from everyone wondering where the vow taker will be buried. Because several soul mate plots have been fully paid for by the various suckers up there at various times.

One of mil weddings involved her in a red floor length ball gown (strip mall purchase, possibly from a Halloween costume pop up store) and she told me to buy her black satin sheets as a gift. I thought that was gross and was told I just didn’t want her to be happy and to shut up. Because love needs black satin sheets. That soul mate died before 55 from morning sex after 18 months of no sex, which resulted in much widow caterwauling but have no fear, his death enabled her to reconnect with the love of her life, who had just made a ton of money. But it’s ok because he was the real love of her life, not dead guy. So it’s good!

Chumpinrecovery
Chumpinrecovery
5 years ago

Vows? Promises? I thought those were just suggestions.

nomoreskankboy
nomoreskankboy
5 years ago

Hahahaha, I just spit out my coffee!

Amiisfree
Amiisfree
5 years ago

“I, AP, promise to never check up on you or ask any serious questions, to do all I can to be a fantasy object including change myself a lot in an attempt to provide you novelty, and to bow out gracefully and give you all my money and everything that matters in my life without argument when you are ready to trade me in for a younger model.”

“I, Cheater, promise to accept all of that and use it to my advantage at every opportunity because I am entitled to it because I am just that awesome. I also promise to keep it subtle when I disappear from our reception for 10 minutes to bang that bridesmaid/groomsman – because at 2 minutes’ walk each way to the broom closet plus 1 minute each to get my clothes off and on, the rest of the job will only take four minutes. That’s just how I roll. See you at the cake. Ha.”

12YearsWasted
12YearsWasted
5 years ago

I sucked your shlong, and that was wrong,
(Your wife says so, I think)
‘Til death do us part (or a change of heart)
I hope we aren’t jinxed.
Our kids’ll adjust
And our parents (they must!)
Cause TWU WUV is real, don’t you know?
With this kiss, I thee wed
In a car or a bed
Off into the sunset we go!
It’s ok that we lie,
It’s so worth it, MY guy
No matter who thinks it’s fake!
Leave your wife in our wake
She’s yesterday’s cake
(Gee, I hope this is not a mistake)

Ka-chump
Ka-chump
5 years ago
Reply to  12YearsWasted

Aha … This.
You win the internet 🙂

kiwichump
kiwichump
5 years ago
Reply to  12YearsWasted

Take a bow, 12 years Wasted!!

unicornomore
unicornomore
5 years ago
Reply to  12YearsWasted

BRILLIANT !!! Love the poetry this AM…it is not my skill

Blindside
Blindside
5 years ago

Don’t worry about your cheater and their AP, they’ll be “happy” together………..at least until they’re not so “happy”……………and when they’re not so “happy” — they need to sleep with other people. Or at least that’s what I gathered from my ex’s gibberish.

In any case, just be “happy” that you’re no longer involved.

Tessie
Tessie
5 years ago

Well, since they were both lying their butts off, both users looking for the next sugar momma/daddy, my guess it was whatever line of bullshit that they think would work to extract as much value as possible.

No Shit Cupcakes
No Shit Cupcakes
5 years ago

We will stick it out until it’s hard. Then we will sneak, lie and cheat because you made me do it.

But we’ll always have herpes together!

ICanSeeTheMehComing!
ICanSeeTheMehComing!
5 years ago

I do not think Mr. Sparkles will get married again UNLESS there is major money/inheritance in it for him. His current GF co-signed a $315K mortgage with him without a “ring”… so why put out his own money for jewelry or churches or vows. He’s already got what he needed – a co-signer.

I would offer these as his vows to himself as he is truly a disordered fuckwit:

I, Mr. Sparkles…

– vow to pathologically lie to anyone who will listen until death I do part.

– vow to go deeper underground every time I get caught with a personal ad online, even if it means digging all the way to China.

– vow to continue to slander all my Exes as “crazy, angry, and bitter” so that my current flame feels special by comparison and also stays away from any contact with them.

– vow to do everything I can to make sure my children don’t have lives more successful than my own, after all, no one is a great as me.

– vow to never be faithful.

– vow to never look back at all the damage I have caused and take honest and adult responsibility for it.

– vow to never let you find my burner phones, passcodes, and secret bank accounts.

– vow to discard you when I find someone better or get bored, I always land on my feet.

– vow never to change.

brit
brit
5 years ago

Your description of Mr. Sparkles, is like reading about Mr. Integrity…, especially the vow to do everything to make sure his children don’t have more successful lives than his.
I find his lack of interest inour son particularly disturbing…

MissBailey
MissBailey
5 years ago

I doubt the X will marry again but if he did, these vows would be his too. Well maybe include

-vow to put my sinister sister before you, because no woman will ever compare to her, not even you.

– vow to never put you first on my priorities unless I need or want someone from you. I will throw extra kibbles for time to time to keep you in line.

Chumpion
Chumpion
5 years ago

Thanks for posting my piece Chumplady.

My brother nailed it when I told him about the cheater wedding. “Well, they no one else to blame now but each other”. That sticks with me, they no longer have a “negative” or “crazy” ex that had been holding them back.

Let the Narcissist battles begin!!!

Mg
Mg
5 years ago

I’ll just leave this here…

[Said during argument after catching him cheating for the zillionth time, had his bags packed and ready to throw him out the instant he got home. He plopped his ass on the couch and wouldn’t budge]
Him: “I’m not leaving, this is my apartment, too! My name is on the lease!”
Me “yeah? Well your name was also on our marriage certificate! Gtfo!”

Nicelutherangirl
Nicelutherangirl
5 years ago
Reply to  Mg

Perfect comeback. I dearly hope he had a big enough scrap of conscience for that to make him squirm and leave.

Mg
Mg
5 years ago

Well, he did also drop the following
“You had sexual conversations with this woman right from the start”
“I just thought I’m being honest with her. I just said I’m sexually aroused by her perfume in the workplace! Is that not being a good, honest person?”
“Well, no. Seeing as you denied anything and everything for months when i ever asked you about it. So no, you’re not a good and honest person. You weren’t that with your spouse.”

I still hung on for 2 more months…and then i was done. But I’m still glad i threw that line in his face!????????

Trying for Mighty
Trying for Mighty
5 years ago

I promise to say one thing and do another, and, if you find out what I’ve done, to blame you.

Tempest
Tempest
5 years ago

That one has the ring of truth!

Tessie
Tessie
5 years ago

They tend to believe each other’s bullshit so it could be almost anything. Anything but the truth, naturally.

My guess would be, a line designed to extract the most value from the most people. Wedding kibbles!

In my case, since they were both sociopathic users in it for the con, OW dumped cheater ex before they got that far. She told him to his face he wasn’t making enough money to suit her. I am sure his widdle feelings were hurt. But of course, it was my fault, bitch that I am. I stole his chance at happiness by making him quit a good, well paying job to get a job as a janitor because I selfishly expected child support, and he wanted to pay the bare minimum.

OW was screwing her way through AA looking for the most lucrative AP so she could live in the style she would like to become accustomed to. He was looking for a better monied host too.

Yep, tru luv!

JannaG
JannaG
5 years ago
Reply to  Tessie

“I stole his chance at happiness by making him quit a good, well paying job to get a job as a janitor because I selfishly expected child support, and he wanted to pay the bare minimum”

You mean real life consequences and having to adult stole a piece of his happiness? Oh, the poor baby! (In the voice of a two year old) “No adulting! No! No! You’re a meanie!” My apologies to all two year olds…they’re more adult than he is, they don’t deserve the comparison…

SerialChump
SerialChump
5 years ago

I, Mr. Wonderful (who is sorely missed by everyone who ever loved me.) Take you. My current distraction (until I get a fresh one. ) to be my lawfully wedded wife ( although I dont follow laws).
I promise to make you feel loved, honored and cherished (until I think you’re sufficiently hoodwinked )
I expect you to love honor and obey. (And also dont ask to many questions or call me out on my ish)
Until death do us part (or until you wont stop crying about my bad behavior and I have to discard you).
A Man.

Beau
Beau
5 years ago

Cheater pants did me irreconcilable dirt as my fiancee, so no vows were ever publically exchanged, but she did go on to marry a few guys (and divorced every one). I’m guessing she finally decided that making public vows was not necessarilly binding in her world, so she remains single today, 50 yrs later. No telling how many men friends she had as live-ins throughout that time frame, but I’m guessing it was plenty. How sad to have lived your life with zero character and no sense of honor.

Sausalito
Sausalito
5 years ago

Cheater Wedding Vows:

Assholio: “Dearest Bar Slut (what was your name again?), as I look into your feverish eyes (probably STD related), I am reminded of all the raunchy sex in cheap hotel rooms, paid for by the federal government with taxpayer money. And while you stepped out onto the balcony to chain smoke (I do so love that about you), I called my unsuspecting wife and kids and pretended to be lonely. But I digress, which I often do because I love to talk about myself. Anyhoo, I promise to continue to impress you with cheap cheesy jewelry, big houses and expensive sports cars as I try to overcompensate for my humble upbringing that I still hold a grudge against my parents for. Damn them for having five kids in a split-level ranch! Oops, anyway, I promise to over-exaggerate my health issues so you feel sorry for me and won’t leave me. I vow to stay with you as long as you worship me like a rock star and don’t demand any attention for yourself. You will also need to provide sex as much as I want, with no expectation of reciprocation. And if you grow resentful of this arrangement like the previous wife, I vow to take off my wedding ring and start looking for a replacement. But my penis loves you right now, so let’s get down to it!”

Bar Slut: “Dearest Assholio, even with your thinning hair and growing paunch, you look good for a middle-aged man. However, I know you’re rotten on the inside, and that’s how I like my men! I vow to text you as many slutty pics as you can handle because I lost my job and have plenty of time to lie around, chain smoke, and spend your money on cheap lingerie. I promise to worship you and stroke your giant ego as long as you can hold my attention. When I get bored (and that will be pretty quickly ‘cause I have a short attention span), I’ll be trolling for a bigger, richer fish. But don’t worry, I won’t leave you until I’ve got another one firmly on the line (God forbid I’d have to get a job again). And don’t worry about the effect of the revolving door of men on my young daughter, because I certainly don’t give a crap. And that restraining order I have against me? Pay it no mind, just a jealous coworker who was disgruntled that I stole her man. It’s not my fault that I compulsively throw myself at married men. I tried medication for it, but too many side-effects… Anyway, you will also need to support my menagerie of animals that I collect and then get bored with. Are you sensing a theme here? I can’t wait to begin this wondrous journey of anal exploration with you, sweet cheating bastard…”

One Way Ticket toMeh-ca Please
One Way Ticket toMeh-ca Please
5 years ago
Reply to  Sausalito

Omg Sausalito, that was too funny. Thank you, my Friday is complete!

brit
brit
5 years ago

Sausalito, the exaggerated illnesses for sympathy and attention, couldn’t help but burst out laughing remembering all his “illnesses” dramatic grimaces and forlorn looks, as if he was on death’s door.
If I were to get sick, he had the same illness but much worse. He’s the only man I know who experienced the same or worse pregnancy symptoms as I did including Braxton hicks.
What an idiot…,

brit
brit
5 years ago
Reply to  brit

What was I thinking? Should have left him when he started experiencing pregnancy symptoms.

Thrive
Thrive
5 years ago
Reply to  Sausalito

Haha. You know my husband. Isn’t he a dick?

Mitz
Mitz
5 years ago
Reply to  Sausalito

This is good. The exaggerated illnesses for sympathy, the animals that they get bored with…….the shallowness overall.

AKA recycled Portia
AKA recycled Portia
5 years ago

They just do normal vows. Listeners will likely chuckle to themselves when they hear the vows “to honor and be faithful” but cheaters won’t care because they are disordered and self centered. Or, listeners won’t chuckle because many times cheaters have lots cheater friends as in my case. Good people don’t want to attend weddings of people who destroy lives for their own selfish interests.

My ex sociopath always plowed through the negative stuff people said about him. He just wouldn’t let it affect him.

JannaG
JannaG
5 years ago

People chuckled at my cousin’s wedding (she’s not a cheater). She promised to listen to her husband and people thought that was funny. But, I think she’s gotten a little more mature as she’s gotten older so maybe she’ll learn to talk less and listen more.

Chumpinrecovery
Chumpinrecovery
5 years ago

Actually, if Ex and Schmoopie get married it will probably just be in front of a judge. Ex knows there would otherwise be people watching who would not approve and the idea of anybody thinking disapproving thoughts about him would make his skin crawl. Then there is his likely reluctance to tie his finances to a woman with five children who lives off child support and alimony which may keep him from wanting to marry at all. All of that could change if Schmoopie lays down an ultimatum, but he might choose to call her bluff on that instead. She won’t dump him for more than a day or two because who else is going to want her long term?

nodancing
nodancing
5 years ago

I promise to treat you right from now to the end of this wedding ceremony. I might make it to after the wedding reception but only because a lot of people are watching. Tomorrow, I will finally resume my real identity as a morose, porn-addicted man with mommy issues. It’s been a long haul keeping the act up for so long but don’t worry I will make you pay for it.

Mitz
Mitz
5 years ago

As long as you are financially helpful to my ongoing whims and fancies.

As long as you enthusiastically appreciate my rare specialness.

Till you call me out on my lies and me first attitude.

Till you object to my callous, mean spirited treatment of others who stand in my way.

oldcrone
oldcrone
5 years ago

Well, this made me wonder (again) what vows Mr. Magoo and POS OW neighbor exchanged when they “married” each other. Rings, exchange of vows in front of her family and friends. Followed by a celebration of the marriage and anniversaries, year after year. Who does this? And what kind of disordered freaks “celebrate” this? I’m not just referring to the two absolute shit heels that go behind someone’s back like that. I am also referring to the attendees. They ALL knew what was going on. This was about 10 years ago and I was completely unaware that he was fucking her, let alone married to her. Cause I was still married to him and totally in the dark about all his betrayals. SHE was fully aware that he and I were married. When SHE told me right before Christmas last year that THEY were married, the only thing Mr. Magoo said was “but we didn’t go to the Justice of the Peace!”. Uh, maybe because you can’t get a marriage license if you are ALREADY MARRIED, dumb-ass. This is one of the many things that I wish I could unknow.

Traffic_Spiral
Traffic_Spiral
5 years ago
Reply to  oldcrone

Did you sue for bigamy in the divorce?

oldcrone
oldcrone
5 years ago
Reply to  Traffic_Spiral

@Chumpinrecovery, cultish, yep sounds about right. I never knew that there were so many people with no sense of honor or values before this. Her kids knew, the kids’ friends and spouses knew, her other relatives and friends, even her ex-husband knew that Mr. Magoo was married. At least 40 people that I know and had met over the years. No one told me anything. And I wasn’t hard to find, as we lived across the street from her. They all knew me, I was the neighborhood grandma and I was expected to be there for her kids and grandkids when they got home from school and she (and Mr. Magoo) were out gallivanting.
@Traffic_Spiral Ashamed to say that I have not (yet) filed and we still live together. Not in the same house that we lived in for 30 years, and where we raised our three children and welcomed in our four grandchildren. After DDay number ???, I couldn’t stay in the house where he fucked her while I was either at work or out of town for work. I could MAYBE have forgiven him for the fucking, but to bring her into MY house and MY bed AND “marry” her? Not forgivable. Just getting my ducks in a row and biding my time to make sure that this new place is in my name only, something he promised to do once the title has been released by the lender. And I need him to pay for new plumbing and sign off on the post-nup he also promised as part of his “amends”. Plumbing is going in next month and the title should be released by then as well. Maybe a cheater-free Christmas? It would be the first holiday he wouldn’t ruin with his entitled, churlish behavior.

Chumpinrecovery
Chumpinrecovery
5 years ago
Reply to  oldcrone

That is truly crazy. Downright cultish. Yuck.

Meg
Meg
5 years ago

They don’t keep promises, but these basic ones cover it:
I promise to wreck your life until someone better or worse comes along. In good times and bad, I will let you down.

Thrive
Thrive
5 years ago

Whoopey – My turn my turn: I promise to allow you to coddle me, suck my dick, and be overly concerned about my happiness until I find another sucker. I will always be available for spending your money and playing my guitar. With this ring I do now quit my job and retire to the couch where I will drink beer and watch football. At half time, I will happily accept a blow job and nachos. Oh right let’s sign a prenup so you don’t get any of my ex wife’s money from the divorce but all your assets we will split when I find my two luv

leftovers
leftovers
5 years ago

The unholy union of happy cheaters is my fear. I want my wife’s emotional and intellectual void to persist and the other guy to be made just as miserable as I was (and to lose 12 years of his life as well).

Mine would vow to love him “until I needed an attention boost and got a little too drunk and touchy feely with a (new, different) coworker and attached to him for the brain chemicals that automatically drive every stupid, unreflected upon decision I make, and then you’ll essentially be dead to me anyway, and I will treat you as such until you kindly fuck off, out of my life forever, also I will block you on everything to hide my shameful act.” Something like that I imagine.

NotYourPlanB
NotYourPlanB
5 years ago

Ugly comment during the Pick Me dance, pre-D-day, as he explained why he didn’t want to work on the marriage in counseling:

“Well you mostly wrote our wedding vows, so they just didn’t mean as much to me.”

A) Untrue, he’s rewriting history. We developed them together.

B) Regardless, what the heck????

leftovers
leftovers
5 years ago
Reply to  NotYourPlanB

These such comments are good for reminding yourself they suck when you have those unwanted missing-them feelings.

ArtistFormerlyKnownAsChump
ArtistFormerlyKnownAsChump
5 years ago
Reply to  leftovers

Yes… I got ‘I can’t wait to move out so I can have a life.’ I had to leave the room – so 23 years and 3 children wasn’t a life? He ran after me to insist he didn’t mean it and Chumpy me agreed. Non-Chumpy me filed yesterday and that phrase is one of my ‘trust that he sucks’ go-tos.

brit
brit
5 years ago

I heard, “I wanted someone I have more in common with” 20 years of marriage, a child, my sacrificing my career for “our” career.

He wanted someone he had more in common with, she liked watching South Park and so does he, there you go!

LookingforwardstoTuesday
LookingforwardstoTuesday
5 years ago

“With all thy worldly goods I me endow. But my sh*t I will keep for myself.”

She honestly thought that she could rob me blind for years, keep everything that she decided was “her’s” and then come back for half of what we had left. And help herself to the kids’ savings accounts while she was at it.

F*ck her.

Drew
Drew
5 years ago

Sounds just like FucktardX. He inherited 60k after his parents died, then put it into our first home (commingling assets) then kept pulling out equity, he was never happy with what we had even making good money. We sold home for a small profit to purchase land to build our dream home. Two years of hard work, then he immediately refinanced that home and property, not once but twice in four years, the last at the same time he started getting really creative with our other accounts. Amid typical cheater behavior, which I explained away as job stress…. ????During our divorce he actually wanted to refinance again, thankfully the market had tanked in CA and I was scrambling to pay the bills and support my kids (two now in college). He went on to steal money from our two youngest, purchased a brand new car a month after Dday (and separation) for our eldest, a junior in college, and then threatened to fuck her over financially during the divorce negotiations. Because schmoops lived out of state he spent all his money on flights while disregarding joint financial obligations and allowing our mortgage to lapse…. By the time he left, 28 years together, he had his sports crap, some guns, his 33K truck, and his miscellaneous personal belongings. Nothing else. He didn’t want any of our pets (we had several at the time), nor our children. He told his crap friends that he just wasn’t “at that place in his life” anymore…What a fucking loser.

LookingforwardstoTuesday
LookingforwardstoTuesday
5 years ago
Reply to  Drew

Loser is not the word I’d use; I’d go a much stronger form of Anglo-Saxon. I’m now 3 1/2 years on from D Day (and nearly 18 months on from the divorce being finalised) and cleared the last of the debts I incurred 3 weeks ago.

It feels great. The kids and I are in good shape and I never have to see her a** getting out of the shower ever again – unlike her AP, who she now lives with.

I actually feel sorry for him!

Chumptastic Voyage
Chumptastic Voyage
5 years ago

Can we all just call a cheater wedding what it is-
an image management festival? Maybe it would be more effective to just set up booths and pass out tote bags.
As for the vows, I hear the sound of the hyperspeed legal disclaimer voice at the end of some radio commercial. (*Some restrictions may apply, see past marriages for details).

twiceachump
twiceachump
5 years ago

???????????????????????????????? That’s great!

Facepalm
Facepalm
5 years ago

(Some restrictions may apply, see past marriages for details).

I think this is spot on perfect! Lol!

Nicelutherangirl
Nicelutherangirl
5 years ago

Image Management Festival. That is just PERFECT.

Nicelutherangirl
Nicelutherangirl
5 years ago

I don’t know about vows, but what I have learned is that the most appropriate way for cheaters to be joined in matrimony is for them to have the blessing of a cheater celebrant. I know one personally, unfortunately.

Before Snakeface embraced Lakota spirituality (along with Spiritual Slut), he went to seminary for a few years, so he has that veneer that makes people think he’s, well, spiritual. That was probably why one of his cousins approached him about officiating at his wedding about ten years ago, since cousin wasn’t deeply religious and his fiancee was a spiritual seeker. So, Snakeface got licensed online to perform marriages, and he’s officiated at 1-2 a year since then, for co-workers and friends.

I’m pretty sure Snakeface and Spiritual Slut had been deep into their relationship for awhile when he officiated at his cousin’s ceremony, and when I heard about that, and about every other wedding after that he was asked to perform, I was nauseated by the irony of a man who was shitting all over his own marriage being asked to unite other couples and bless their love. I attended the cousin’s wedding, but I was, of course, not invited to any of the others. Given the fact that most, if not all, of the couples he married had some connection to him through the workplace where he and Spiritual Slut are both employed, or through their Lakota community, most of them must have had some idea of the illicit relationship he was involved in.

The last wedding that I heard about, was a doozy. CroneSlut, Spiritual Slut’s older sister and also a close friend to Snakeface, had her own affair, overlapping with theirs, a few years back. Snakeface officiated at the wedding of CroneSlut and Affair Partner, PhD last fall. It’s a pity that none of them were apparently served a nice slice of karma along with the wedding cake.

Velvet Hammer ????????❤️
Velvet Hammer ????????❤️
5 years ago

Snakeface!

Spiritual Slut!

Crone Slut!

This is a mini-series and you need to get it produced and cash in on the insanity.

oldcrone
oldcrone
5 years ago

Ouch, oldcrone is my screen name. I take being a crone as a positive – an old woman who keeps the traditions of the family alive, is wise (not wise enough in my case, but I will get there) and who is a protective figure. Croneslut doesn’t sound like she has any of those qualities.

Nicelutherangirl
Nicelutherangirl
5 years ago
Reply to  oldcrone

Qualities? She had them until she didn’t. I feel for you. If you haven’t caught it yet, you might be interested in my reply to It Ain’t Me above. So, keep the excellent qualities you described alive, and may the Baba Yaga beat CroneSlut with her broom stick!

(This is second try at posting – sorry if it’s a repeat post!)

Nicelutherangirl
Nicelutherangirl
5 years ago
Reply to  oldcrone

She did until she didn’t…. I feel for you, too. You might be interested in my reply to “It Ain’t Me” above. Keep the honorable Crone spirit alive, but may Baba Yaga whack Croneslut with the stick of her broom!

It Ain't Me
It Ain't Me
5 years ago
Reply to  oldcrone

Aww. I saw a snippet of a documentary about a ‘Croning’ ceremony – when you describe it the way you just did, I actually understand it and the different use of the term much more clearly.

Cheers to keeping the Crone name honorable! I’m sure you’re doing the next justice = )

It Ain't Me
It Ain't Me
5 years ago

I’m kinda dying over ‘CroneSlut’ !! lol
I feel like I know this person.

That sounds like a total shit show.

Nicelutherangirl
Nicelutherangirl
5 years ago
Reply to  It Ain't Me

Oh, nonononono – not a “shit show”, it would have been an “Image Management Festival”, as Chumptastic Voyage, in the post above mine, so brilliantly dubbed all such events!

Glad you like “CroneSlut”, though! It seemed to fit. She embraced the “crone” title and role for feminist reasons, honoring the wisdom of the older woman, an ideal I share and respect. She also had a gift for hospitality, and I used to like her in spite of her support of the “friendship” between Snakeface and Spiritual Slut. Respect came to a screeching halt when I found out about her affair. I knew a limited amount about CroneSlut’s marriage, but most of what I knew, SHE told me. Her former husband agreed to move to the country to make HER happy, so she could live out HER dream of organic farming, creating homeopathic medicines, jewelry making – the hippie dream. Selfishness seems to be in the DNA.

nomar
nomar
5 years ago

“I, Cheater, take thee—SQUIRREL!!!!”

ArtistFormerlyKnownAsChump
ArtistFormerlyKnownAsChump
5 years ago
Reply to  nomar

????????
‘Oh no, she’s been arrested and hanged!!’

Tempest
Tempest
5 years ago
Reply to  nomar

Standing ovation, Nomar!

Traffic_Spiral
Traffic_Spiral
5 years ago
Reply to  nomar

Yup.

Amiisfree
Amiisfree
5 years ago
Reply to  nomar

And with that, nomar wins the internet!

Chumptopia
Chumptopia
5 years ago

Oh! This is rich! As my cheater XH tromps down the aisle for the SEVENTH time with his Twu Luv because this is a man who takes wedding vows seriously. Bwahahaha (he told me I was his second wife when we got marrried…I was his fifth and he cheated on all the priors. Then when I nursed him through a terrible illness he insisted we renew our wedding vows on our anniversary so I could catch him fucking slut puppet in the Econo Lodge five months later…but I digress)
Back to the wedding vows:

‘I promise to love and cherish you until the next snatch turns my head because I just can’t resist a woman who wants to fuck me. I’ve never been true to anything or anyone in my life. I have no idea what love is and I’ll go to my grave not knowing it. I’ll throw little children away for a stolen fuck at the Econo Lodge. I’ll look you in the eye and lie my ass off while I sneak off to the next fuckfest. I know you think that you are ‘special’ because I’ve told you that but you are the biggest fool on earth if you believe that. I’m a liar, a cheat and a thief. Til’ the next fuck comes along do us part.’

Mandie101
Mandie101
5 years ago
Reply to  Chumptopia

#whenyouneedtodobackgroundchecksonpotentialspouses

#21stcenturylove

#crazyisascrazydoes

Christ! How did he hid the other give wives ( who no doubt were happy to be rid of him as you are)?

Zell
Zell
5 years ago

“I vow to desperately and continuously check your phone, clothing, and car for any signs of cheating so that we may both enjoy the paranoia of our unfaithful tendencies in matrimony.”

May we enjoy the darkness together, Amen.

Chumptopia
Chumptopia
5 years ago
Reply to  Zell

Good one Zell. You know that’s what cheaters will always do. No such thing as trust between them. I always said that my cheater X and schmoopie made a perfect pair. He was the kind of guy who would cheat on his wife and she was the kind of gal who would fuck a married man. No honor among lying, cheating thieves.

Janna
Janna
5 years ago

Actually heard this one between two cheaters, one of which was having an off and on affair with my stbx, one of two good ‘friends’ who had sex with him, great gals:

“As long as we both shall love…….”

Please say that in a soft, wispy voice. The ‘lub’ lasted for about a year, just long enough for the male in the pair to transfer his sizable debt unto his new wife unit. Ah karma…..

Chumpinrecovery
Chumpinrecovery
5 years ago
Reply to  Janna

Ha! I guess that is a little more honest. They were giving themselves an out without having to break promises again.

Aeronaut
Aeronaut
5 years ago

“I take you in marriage, and solemnly promise to pay for the medical treatment for any STDs that I give you, ….”

Chumpinrecovery
Chumpinrecovery
5 years ago
Reply to  Aeronaut

I wouldn’t count on it.

Champ
Champ
5 years ago

“Do you take this … uh … person to be your cutesy-wootsey sweetie pie?”

“Oh, yeah, Baby. I doooooooo.”

“Oh! Oh! Oh! I do, tooooooooo!!!!!!”

“I now pronounce you ‘Lord and Lady Douchebag’.”

It Ain't Me
It Ain't Me
5 years ago

Currently wondering: Why do these types even bother getting married in the first place?

-You can pass your filthy privates around to anybody you want.(those privates were VERY public, ha!)

-You don’t have anybody telling you to be responsible with money, alcohol, people, the internet, feelings, etc.

-You don’t have someone awkwardly sitting in at family gatherings, wondering why they don’t fit in with any of the other dirt bags you’re related to (I now realize that being ostracized was a gift!).

WHY oh WHY get married?! Isn’t it more comfortable to do your dirt without having to watch your back? This stuff started during our courtship! This animal smiled, lied and for all intents and purposes, tricked me into getting married (if I had all the info there was nooo way I would have done it). I can’t help feeling like the very act of getting married when you’re a lying cheat is pure selfishness. Just stay single.
Getting married after you’re a proven, verified cheat just seems even more…I dunno, pointless?

JannaG
JannaG
5 years ago
Reply to  It Ain't Me

Amen! I also wonder why people who are into polyamory bother to marry. Why have an open marriage when you can just have a girlfriend/boyfriend that you can trade in whenever you want? But, I guess they want the social benefits of being married.

It Ain't Me
It Ain't Me
5 years ago
Reply to  JannaG

Now THAT is mind boggling. But you’re right, I feel like I read somewhere that people with wedding rings are seen as more honest..

*Cue chump laugh track = )

Lola Granola
Lola Granola
5 years ago
Reply to  It Ain't Me

1) Image management: marriage is the great social Seal of Approval.

2) Finances – opportunity to transfer debt, rob rich partner blind, acquire roof over head, etc.

That’s it, really.

The secret to really happy singlehood for a Chump is the mirror image: stop looking for the Seal of Approval and just do what’s right, and make sure you can provide for yourself.

It Ain't Me
It Ain't Me
5 years ago
Reply to  Lola Granola

Makes sense to me! #1 it’s huge. I guess there are a lot of comforts.

:: Eye roll::

Lola Granola
Lola Granola
5 years ago
Reply to  It Ain't Me

I forgot:

3. Babysitting/childcare – ivyleaguechump reminded me of it below!