Elon Musk’s Creepy Harem

elon musk harem

Did you catch the news this week about billionaire, and un-elected destroyer of the Free World, Elon Musk having a harem?

What’s this have to do with cheating, Tracy? Can’t a person become a consensual baby mama without your judgement? What’s a hired uterus or 14?

Must I justify a column to drag Elon Musk? We did snark about him here a few years ago as a dime store narcissist, (he allegedly had an affair with his best friend’s wife, however, it’s highly unlikely Musk has ever had a best friend). Since then he’s only gone on to greater feats of malignant batshittery.

It’s not enough he’s taken a literal chain saw to our federal government…

HE NEEDS TO BREED.

Yes, he wants to spread his seed, according to a recent feature in the Wall Street Journal. How many of our fuckwits wanted a harem? They just lacked the funds, so they had to recruit on the down low to live their pussy buffet fantasy. But Elon Musk can buy as many baby mamas — and babies! — as he wants.

Forbes reports:

Elon Musk is so eager to create a “legion” of children he once used X to recruit a potential mother and suggested to a former girlfriend they hire surrogates, according to a Wall Street Journal report, which alleges he manages the mothers like a “meritocracy,” financially rewarding those who are quiet and cooperative.

Quiet and cooperative?

Sorry uppity ladies. You won’t qualify for the honor of gestating mini-Musks. Can you imagine breeding with such a human pustule?

Looks like a wolverine was trapped in his swim trunks and tried to claw its way out. What is that?

Anyway, Elon Musk needs a harem because there aren’t enough babies in the world. He likened declining birth rates in some developed countries to the “collapse of civilization“. However, a U.N. study debunked this, showing that actually the world is plenty populated, but Elon doesn’t count the brown babies.

So, we need more Elons created in His image.

One of the Musk vessels, right-wing influencer Ashley St. Clair, mother of his 13th (publicly acknowledged child) wasn’t discreet enough.

Forbes reports on the Wall Street Journal story:

St. Clair and other unnamed sources told the Journal Musk is highly sensitive to privacy concerns: St. Clair said Musk’s fixer, Jared Birchall, texted her when she went into labor and urged her to keep Musk’s name off the birth certificate, a request she complied with, though she refused to keep Musk’s relationship to her and their child secret in exchange for Musk’s offer of $15 million plus $100,000 per month until the baby was 21.

After she publicly disclosed her relationship with Musk in a post on X in February, the billionaire revoked the $15 million offer and lowered her monthly payments to $40,000 a month, then appeared to slash them further when he found out about the Journal article, paying her $20,000 on Tuesday, she reportedly said.

Babies are great… child support not so much.

As one of the gazillion people owed back support, I find these numbers insane. Just to keep things in perspective — the average amount of child support in the U.S. is $430 a month, and your chances of collecting it are not good. (A third of those owed child support receive nothing. Among those who get support, half don’t get the full amount). But, yes, let’s make more babies.

After St. Clair got uppity, Musk charmingly tried to deny paternity.

Buzzfeed reports:

Ashley then wrote to Elon, responding, “Elon, we asked you to confirm paternity through a test before our child (who you named) was even born. You refused. And you weren’t sending *me* money, you were sending support for your child that you thought was necessary… until you withdrew most of it to maintain control and punish me for ‘disobedience.’ But you’re really only punishing your son.”

Ashley, you might want to rethink your career as handmaiden to the patriarchy. Maintaining control and punishing you is the broligarchy brand. Surprise. The leopard bit your face. Now you’re a feminist? Besides, you aren’t Musk’s only special vessel.

Vanity Fair reports:

Another time, Musk reportedly texted St. Clair about a Japanese official asking him to donate sperm to an unnamed woman. “No romance or anything, just sperm,” the text read. According to St. Clair, Musk followed through on the transaction, suggesting the number of kids Musk has actually fathered is even higher than what’s known.

Just sperm?

Like, what are the logistics here? Through the mail? How much Elon spunk is out there? Is this like some Columbia Records Club you can never quit?

I guess harems aren’t what they used to be. Now you just hit up random women on X offering jizz donations. What kind of ketamine-fueled wet dream is this to impregnate a “legion” of women? Apparently a common one among megalomaniacs. Remember Jeffery Epstein?

Honest to God New York Times headline: Jeffrey Epstein Hoped to Seed Human Race with His DNA (gift link). Epstein had his creepy New Mexico ranch. Musk has DOGE and X.

Making eugenics great again. Give that man a turkey baster.

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OHFFS
OHFFS
6 months ago
Reply to  Tracy Schorn

I hope you enjoy your new place. 🙂

Spinach@35
Spinach@35
6 months ago
Reply to  Tracy Schorn

Good luck with the move!

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago
Reply to  Tracy Schorn

I know some people buy into the idea that psychopathy is heritable because it’s a popular concept these days. But please rest assured that eugenics is junk science, criminality isn’t heritable and, because this douchebag won’t participate in raising most of his own spawn, not all of them will turn out like him.

Elizabeth Lee
Elizabeth Lee
6 months ago

Of course some of these baby mamas, especially the later ones, have their own issues. At this point, the entire planet knows that Musk is not a good guy. I feel for every one of these kids.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago
Reply to  Elizabeth Lee

I’m afraid he hasn’t yet put the finishing touches on the heinous legacy that will haunt his offspring all their days, not to mention the rest of the world. But at least one of his kids seems to be inoculating themselves against the fallout and may end up okay: his trans daughter Vivian was wise to get ahead of it by publicly refuting his bogus “Christian family man” pose and outing him as a raging abuser, racist, homophobic, transphobic and a “serial adulterer.”

Daughterofachump
Daughterofachump
6 months ago

I hope not.

Archer
Archer
6 months ago

He’s serial adulterer according to one of his original kids with ex wife Justine so certainly an appropriate topic here!

Dontfeellikedancin
Dontfeellikedancin
6 months ago
Reply to  Archer

Thanks. I hadn’t heard that, but he constantly lies and over promises, so not surprised.

Bruno
Bruno
6 months ago

Just a new iteration of what was originally proposed in “Dr. Strangelove”. (10 women for every man)
https://youtu.be/Y8icpnrLqx0?si=5hpqmt_zo4V5v2j1

ChumpedAndDumped
ChumpedAndDumped
6 months ago
Reply to  Bruno

Elon Musk also seems to have the same inability to control his arm as Dr. Strangelove, in which he cannot stop it from rising to a Nazi salute.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago
Reply to  Bruno

“Zhe vimmen vill have to be zelected for zheir zexual characteriztics vhich vill have to be of a highly ztimulating nature…” :p

Daughterofachump
Daughterofachump
6 months ago

HI Tracy, yes, this is really creepy of him. Obviously he doesn’t care how this looks to the general public.. To quote Gov. Walz, “These guys are weird.”

On a related note, I believe bull sperm is sent through the mail to ranchers. I don’t know how this is done; my best guess is frozen with packaging to keep it cold. I have no idea as to whether this is done with human sperm, or whether it’s even legal to do it.

Ruby Gained A Life
Ruby Gained A Life
6 months ago

Back in the day, my mother worked for Accelerated Genetics, formerly Tri-State Breeders Cooperative. My mother was responsible for international sales and shipment. Most of the sires were bulls, but they also collected and shipped horse semen, pigs, and sheep. The semen is collected using an “artificial vagina” and a steer who is terrorized by the bull attempting to rape him. It is then separated into little glass ampules using an egg base, frozen using liquid nitrogen and shipped in a special container designed to keep it frozen. Sending it to other nations requires special permits and shipping process, and each country has different requirements. My mother knew all of the red tape required for everyplace they shipped semen. I have no idea whether they ship human semen, but if anyone could arrange doing it extra-legally, it would be a billionaire.

Daughterofachump
Daughterofachump
6 months ago

That’s a chilling thought. (pun intended) I guess it’s quite possible that Musk is shipping his sperm around the glove.

Stephen
Stephen
6 months ago

OH MY GOD!! I actually know about this from my work experiences. There was a guy in the US west that had stud bulls. He sold their sperm to other ranchers but after he ran out of American buyers he needed to find a new market. Stud bulls don’t stop producing sperm just because no one wants it and good stud bull sperm is a terrible thing to waste (lol).

Someone in China wanted to buy the bull sperm but the guy was having trouble making the sale due to China’s “red tape.” I was in the meeting with the Chinese consulate where a deal was arranged so he could sell his prized bull sperm to the Chinese buyer but the catch was we needed to accept something from China that their business people couldn’t get into the United States. So we did because stud bull sperm is more impportant than Chinese trinkets. And that, my friends, is how countries become trading partners. Making every single thing Trump says and is doing absolutely moronic.

Best Thing
Best Thing
6 months ago

Just think of all that autistic sperm laying around. Where is RFKJr. when you need him?

dondashall
dondashall
6 months ago
Reply to  Best Thing

As an autistic, please do NOT play into the INCREDIBLY SCARY eugenics going on right now. His children are victims and they all hate him.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago
Reply to  dondashall

It is incredibly scary and also relevant to the issue of domestic abuse because it’s all about how junk science can be used to fuel bigotry. In that sense, all the ugly “isms” relate from sexism to racism to ableism, etc.

I discovered this when doing research for special ed attorneys on “eugenicist” spin regarding autism, especially the sudden rash of mainstream academic studies absurdly correlating school shooters and serial killers to “autism genes” and claims that the so-called “dictator gene” or “zero empathy genes” overlap with autism.

The interesting thing is that I wasn’t asked to do the research because of a scientific background but because of previous work researching and writing about the effects of junk social science theories and crap evolutionary theories on domestic violence policy and institutional and social views and treatment towards victims. Eerily, it was kind of a seamless transfer. I was even able to use some of the same scientific sources and interview subjects. Basically the point of the project wasn’t so much scientific as political– to demonstrate how, in an age when scientific theory (for better or worse) often forms the basis for laws and policies which in turn (given the power of science today) powerfully impact public perceptions, junk genetics and junk evolutionary science was creating a kind of violent “fatwa” against individuals on the spectrum. It was clear that even untested and upreplicated demonizing theories were fueling institutional abuse of the disabled, including police excessive force deaths and use of deadly restraint and seclusion in schools, the latter of which are disproportionately deadly to individuals with autism, particularly children (at a terrifying rate of about 150 restraint and seclusion deaths a year since 1989).

In the end we had to conclude that the death toll is not happenstance but completely predictable because today’s junk genetic hunt for putative “crime genes”– like all forms of 20th century totalitarian “scientism”– is really about the creation of supposedly genetic castes in order to rationalize the suppression or eradication of “inconvenient” populations. It also serves a political function. By sewing up and attributing all human evil to certain identifiable diagnostic categories and ethnic groups (especially those from countries the west wants to invade for valuable resources), it can be used to “manufacture consent” among the public for the collateral or deliberate killing of children on the view that they’re genetic “bad seeds” and predetermined criminals so “no big loss.”

Anyway, many of the themes are the same regarding the misogyny underlying a lot of domestic abuse and how junk science is so often used to rationalize lack of enforcement against it, disparaging and blaming views of victims and lack of protection for victims. Though not as deliberate as in weaponized racial science used by the military industrial complex to rationalize war crimes and in weaponized neurogenetics used against the disabled, there’s also very high child collateral in domestic abuse as a result of these policies.

The horribly ironic thing about Musk self-diagnosing with autism– apart from deepening the dangerous public misconception that autism correlates to criminal and “asshole” behavior– is that Musk seems to subscribe to a kind of caste system even within the diagnostic category by labeling himself with Asperger’s despite the fact that it’s no longer used. But I think it’s clear why he did this: because, since Hans Asperger first spared high functioning individuals from the Nazi T-4 program while sending less “gifty” children to be starved, poisoned or gassed in killing hospitals like Am Spiegelgrund, Hadamar and Hartheim, this particular label is viewed by some as the “good” and “useful” kind of autism. From DOGE cuts to special education and disability programs so far which largely throw the more challenging low- and non-verbal– i.e., less “useful”– forms of autism under the bus, it’s obvious that Musk sharply distinguishes himself from the latter.

The overlaps of “isms” again. I think it’s completely predictable from an all around racist and sexist abuser. According to his Nazi salute, I don’t even think Musk minds much that the eugenic flipside of creating a “positive caste” within autism by mythically labeling Asperger’s the “Einstein disorder” is that some have also labeled it the “Hitler disorder.” I guess that wouldn’t seem like a bad thing to people who think Hitler was a (retch) “visionary genius”? But most people on the planet don’t share that view so it just increases the fatwa against autism.

Last edited 6 months ago by Hell of a Chump
Best Thing
Best Thing
6 months ago
Reply to  dondashall

Sorry for the misunderstanding dondashall, my comment was absolutely sarcasm.

Daughterofachump
Daughterofachump
6 months ago
Reply to  Tracy Schorn

If this was the 80s, I’d say he was a coke addict. The white powder, not the soft drink. From what I’ve read, he uses ketamine. I have no idea as to whether or not that’s addictive.

Dontfeellikedancin
Dontfeellikedancin
6 months ago
Reply to  Tracy Schorn

Reportedly he was never diagnosed with ASD by an actual doctor, and if he was diagnosed or participated at all in understanding his diagnosis, he might know that we don’t use the Nazi term Asperger’s anymore.

But as Tracy says, he has far worse (dark triad?) diagnoses driving what he does.

Dontfeellikedancin
Dontfeellikedancin
6 months ago

Replying to myself here to express my utter bafflement, which has not faded since the inauguration, that he used a Nazi term to explain away a Nazi salute, with zero evidence, and people are like “seems legit.” SMDH.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago

A lot of apologists tried to justify Musk’s gesture as a “Roman salute” except there’s no evidence ancient Romans ever used it. In fact, the first demonstration of it in history was apparently in a 1914 silent film on the Roman Republic’s war with Carthage– just some shit the director made up that seemed kind of ancient Roman-y. The fact that the gesture started as a cheesy silent movie theatrical device makes sense because, when he was starting out in politics, Hitler secretly studied with mediocre opera singer, film actor and acting coach Paul Devrient who helped Hitler overcome a vocal chord injury and also helped him develop his famous bombastic public speaking style and many of Hitler’s bizarre and exaggerated signature gestures, including the so-called “Roman salute.”

Maybe his defenders will try to argue that Musk is a fan of obscure Italian silent films but otherwise the only real life people to use this salute in history were genocidal fascists.

Last edited 6 months ago by Hell of a Chump
Dontfeellikedancin
Dontfeellikedancin
6 months ago

Maybe they cancel each other out like “Elon Musk didn’t not name his son Techno Mechanicus.”

cheaterssuck
cheaterssuck
6 months ago

Under his eye

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago
Reply to  cheaterssuck

Blessed be the fruit.

cheaterssuck
cheaterssuck
6 months ago

May the lord open

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago
Reply to  cheaterssuck

Ew, gag, that one always sounds so disgusting lol.

Enough
Enough
6 months ago

It should be against the law for these megalomaniacal malignant narcissists to breed. Oh never mind, laws are meaningless to them.

KattheBat
KattheBat
6 months ago

Ah yes…the sudden shock when the leopards ate her face and didn’t give her money for an ambulance.

This is the ultimate consequence of Breeding With A Fuckwit. Only she chose the reigning king of fuckwittery. Clocking in at number 13 did she seriously think this one was going to be special??

The sudden turnaround of far right wing women to feminism (only where it serves them, so not really) when they realize being in the lap of patriarchal nitwits will not save them is giving me hives.

Yes, the racist who threw a nazi salute at a rally and mails his sperm to unnamed women at the behest of what can only be described as a pimp (ffs a man texted him for this sperm..) will also be a misogynist.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago
Reply to  KattheBat

Don’t worry– the trad chicks will do another 180 and distance themselves from feminism again when it no longer serves their interests so we won’t have to bear the charade and icky association for long. This is especially true because decamping from feminism can be very profitable.”Dah patriarchy” loves turncoats and their whiny testimonies about how feminism led them astray the same way McCarthyists loved the cynical switcheroo of former socialists.

In her 1993 Backlash, Susan Faludi documents cases of several prominent feminists who did this sort of “God that failed” transition decrying feminism when it didn’t bring them the success and acclaim they hoped for. The backlash media naturally rewarded the flipflopping with bylines, positive reviews and publishing deals which is why most people are more familiar with the name (barf) Camille Paglia than Susan Faludi.

KattheBat
KattheBat
6 months ago

I love Susan Faludi. I still have my copy of Backlash.

Oh of course patriarchy loves flipfloppers. Women who were never feminists in the first place turn to it when the leopards start a’chewin. But then go back when they realize it’s not there to benefit them when they need it, it’s also there to help people they don’t like too.

Then misogynists point to this and say “see! Feminism is a joke!” Like…no, it’s not something right wing women get to pick from when they feel like it and then abandon when they’re done.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago
Reply to  KattheBat

I think you nailed it. It’s the basic definition of ideological opportunism. Empty people with no basic ethical principles have a particular superpower. Because there’s no “there there,” they’re ethically free to veer towards whatever ideology seems to promise them sparkles and success in any particular era.

But how is that any different than the mirroring and con-artistry that abusers engage in to get laid or land a beneficial trophy partner?

Moral flexibility/opportunistic “changeability” is the mark of criminal mentality.

Last edited 6 months ago by Hell of a Chump
dondashall
dondashall
6 months ago

Let’s also remember he has a thing for SPECIFICALLY male children – their genders are bought and paid for. The reason (well, one of them) he hates Vivian his trans daughter so much is she invalidated that contract (this comes from her). He is a very very creepy man (btw if you want a full expose check out Foreign Man in a Foreign Land’s video “the cucktocracy of elon musk”, absolutely amazing and gross).

LookingForwardsToTuesday
LookingForwardsToTuesday
6 months ago

There is a lot of very questionable judgement going on here. From what I can see, these ladies are less of a “hareem” and more of a string of brood mares willing to be inseminated by him for (a lot of) money. I just feel very sorry for the resulting children.

LFTT

nomar
nomar
6 months ago

Creepy Asshole needs a “legion” of kids so that maybe when they’re all grown up ONE of them will still talk to him.

Anagram for Elon Musk = Lone Skum
Anagram for Tesla = Steal

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago
Reply to  nomar

LOL

Crispy Chick
Crispy Chick
6 months ago

I read a Kara Swisher interview where she wasn’t sure what happened to him in his life but he had some sort of gaping hole in his soul…. reminded me of CL’s elevator shaft for a soul metaphor. I also read that his father impregnated Elon’s stepsister. Definitely shine messed up sh*t there.

OHFFS
OHFFS
6 months ago
Reply to  Crispy Chick

He grew up in a family of literal Nazis. Nazis are cruel people. Abuse is a given.

Amelia
Amelia
6 months ago
Reply to  Tracy Schorn

It is true, apparently – see Errol Musk’s Wikipedia page (“Family life”). It is a harrowing read overall.

SDC
SDC
6 months ago

Musk gets a free pass on his weirdness and government intrusion due to the Dumb Fucks vandalizing Tesla Dealerships and cars belonging to innocent citizens.

My neighbor is the biggest asshole that ever existed. Total piece of shit. Yet, I don’t firebomb his F-150 because that transfers the craziness image to me instead of him.

Fucktards don’t need free advertisement. They are masters at highlighting their own madness.

Dontfeellikedancin
Dontfeellikedancin
6 months ago
Reply to  SDC

I agree, I DO NOT support vandalism or arson, but I DO understand why they’re doing it.

He’s not nearly as smart as he tells you. His power comes from his wealth and the companies he owns, specifically Tesla, which he PAID to be named a co-founder of. Making Tesla cars or dealerships a liability (more than the cyber truck already is) is a way of taking away his power.

Again I don’t support it but not sure what else could take him down so quickly. He lies and breaks the law and does not care and has no consequences.

chumpedforbigtata
chumpedforbigtata
6 months ago

This is the funniest thing you have ever posted. I really needed this laugh. Please someone’s got to invite you to late night TV with Jimmy Kimmel.

chumpedforbigtata
chumpedforbigtata
6 months ago

And according to his buddy “Dr” Kennedy he will never be able to toilet himself either.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago

Even stopped clocks can be right twice a day. It’s just a statistical fact that a significant percentage of individuals on the spectrum are profoundly challenged and will require round the clock assistance and public funding for the rest of their lives. I just find it grossly ironic that Kennedy can state this while politically associating himself with a regime that is cutting funding to programs slated to support individuals with lower functioning forms of autism and their families.

To many of the families I know and worked with for fifteen years who have profoundly affected children and adult children, these cuts are akin to a passive and protracted T4 killing program, especially considering that supports for more challenging forms of autism were already woefully inadequate. In an attempt to improve this, one attorney friend with a non-verbal young adult son started three separate autism parent advocacy organizations of which only a handful of original founders are still alive because parents of seriously affected kids die young and drop like flies from stress related illness. And once the parents are gone– which is going to happen sooner rather than later due to the cuts– there’s often no one left to care for their children who are also at very high risk for abuse and death in institutional care.

I can’t even bear watching what’s happening these days because things were already bad and I can only imagine that worse is to come. What people seem to forget is that, prior to WWII, Germany had the most progressive and comprehensive welfare and disability support systems in the world. Reversing this was among the first things the Nazis did years before enacting the Final Solution. Without the state funding or supports, many overwhelmed parents in Germany reluctantly gave in to state pressure to send their dependent disabled children to institutional care at which point these institutions were, without parents’ or the public’s knowledge or consent, secretly turned into T4 killing hospitals. That was actually the original purpose for the gas chambers were first developed and used– to kill disabled children and later to kill disabled adults on the grounds that society could not bear the “burden” of so many profoundly disabled individuals. And then they went after migrants and minorities.

Anyway, cuts to disability funding and programs are a frightening precedent which is why it’s critical to acknowledge that profoundly affected individuals on the spectrum actually exist and and not at all helpful to pretend they don’t even one of the public figures purporting this is a walking disaster.

It frightens me how easy it could potentially be to kill– whether deliberately or by “oops” attrition– a disabled population that many people deny even exists.

Last edited 6 months ago by Hell of a Chump
Dontfeellikedancin
Dontfeellikedancin
6 months ago

Oh I just read RFK’s comments on people with autism. What a tragedy.

But also doesn’t make sense…the richest “genius” in the world claims he has ASD… at least when it’s convenient for him…

At least TRY to make sense as an administration 😵‍💫

Last edited 6 months ago by Dontfeellikedancin
OHFFS
OHFFS
6 months ago

High functioning autistics are actually very intelligent, so there is no contradiction between being a genius and ASD. However, Edolph is not one of the ASD geniuses. He could have been, had he not been raised by abusive racists and wasn’t a drug addict. RFK is dangerously crazy, so anything he says can be dismissed.

Daughterofachump
Daughterofachump
6 months ago
Reply to  OHFFS

“Edolph” – good one! Can I borrow it, without claiming credit of course?

Last edited 6 months ago by Daughterofachump
OHFFS
OHFFS
6 months ago

I can’t claim credit for it as I’ve seen others saying it as well. So use it and use it and use it! The more we humiliate these scumbags the better, because their poor widdle egos are incredibly fragile.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago
Reply to  OHFFS

Please see my comment about how stopped clocks can be right twice a day. For all his insanity and fuckwittery, RFK Jr. isn’t wrong that a significant percent of individuals on the spectrum will need 24/7 care for the rest of their lives.

I got heavily involved in advocacy for the profoundly disabled after my LD son was physically abused by school staff. Even if my son doesn’t have autism, it was mostly parents of severely autistic children and dedicated legal advocates for those families who were leading the campaign to end deadly institutional disciplinary practices against disabled students such as “restraint and seclusion” and I learned a lot from them and working for the cause.

I honestly don’t understand how it’s become some PC, “woke” thing to deny that a large percentage of people on the spectrum are severely challenged. It just seems to make them easier to institutionally abuse and kill if the public is convinced they don’t exist.

OHFFS
OHFFS
6 months ago

Yep. That’s why it’s called a spectrum, because there are differing levels of function. Are people denying that a lot of people on the spectrum are significantly impaired? I haven’t seen that.
Btw, I’m on the spectrum myself. Runs in my family.

Last edited 6 months ago by OHFFS
Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago
Reply to  OHFFS

The war between factions depicting autism as a “gift” and those trying to raise public awareness that many are not high functioning and require more funding and supports has been going on for a long time.

For instance, I remember how Denis Leary once wrote something awful about autism in his biography and got blowback for it from self advocates and parents of affected people. Here’s what he wrote in his book:

“There is a huge boom in autism right now because inattentive mothers and competitive dads want an explanation for why their dumb-ass kids can’t compete academically, so they throw money into the happy laps of shrinks…to get back diagnoses that help explain away the deficiencies of their junior morons. I don’t give a s— what these crackerjack whack jobs tell you — your kid is not autistic. He’s just stupid. Or lazy. Or both.”
Worse, in attempting to defend what he wrote, Leary then dug the hole deeper by claiming he was only sayin’ that individuals with “real” autism are all super geniuses so all the parents claiming their “fat”, deficient “morons” are autistic are just trying to make their loser offspring seem special.

Leary actually thought this was a woke thing to say but, in fact, only outraged parents of profoundly affected individuals even more. At the time, Leary was playing a fireman on Rescue Me, so a retired FDNY captain and parent of a severely affected child who also founded an advocacy organization for firefighters with affected kids wrote Leary an open letter basically saying that Leary claiming the authority to speak about autism was as lame as his pretense of representing actual fireman. The retired captain sent back the “gift” of the DVD box set of Rescue Me that Leary had sent to the department.

Point being is that the “autism is only gifted” view can actually be quite dangerous to those who don’t fit the stereotype, especially because, in difficult economic times, the public tends to become more resistant against funding supports for the disabled and less concerned about widespread institutional abuse. For all his many faults and crimes, I think a lot of the people who are backlashing against RFK Jr.’s pretty factual remarks on profound autism think they’re being PC but are, in actuality, inadvertently taking the “Leary” position.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
6 months ago
Reply to  OHFFS

My son doesn’t have autism per se but was once diagnosed with something similar to PDD-NOS and consequently tends to be very aware of anything happening in the neurodiverse arena. His opinion is that, especially online collectives that attract younger self advocates are being exploited by a lot of political and corporate interests as a potential ready made “brigading mob” that can be aimed at the opponents of these interests like a steerable weapon.

In other words, he thinks ND groups are being insultingly and patronizingly targeted as potential “useful idiots” for covert and often self-defeating agendas, partly because of the tendency of people on the spectrum to be sensitive to social justice issues. Anyway, these covert operators seem to like to lull and inculcate younger self-advocates with eugenic-y nonsense about how ND are the “chosen” and represent some higher caste of human evolution.

I’ve been talking to my kids about how to spot religious and existential cults (including the “cults” of porn and the manosphere) since they could string sentences together so my son is pretty inoculated against being “flattered” by eugenic “chosen caste” nonsense. In fact he’s pissed off and alarmed by it because, of course, the flattering “upper caste” status would only apply to those who are high functioning and throws the rest under the bus.

Because my son was once profoundly disabled and nonverbal and faced severe discrimination and violent treatment in two schools because of it, his heart will always be with the “under-underdog” even if he’s now fully verbal, defied his original dx and is about to start college. But it upsets him that some Millennial and GenZ neurodiverse self-designated “HFAs” seem embarrassed about the existence of lower functioning individuals on the spectrum as if this casts aspersions on them and will often deny the statistics or become angry if anyone even factually mentions the challenges that lower functioning individuals deal with– despite the fact that, in order for the public to understand how critical it is fund comprehensive supports for more profoundly affected people and agree to put tax monies into these programs, these challenges and needs must be made public knowledge.

But my son doesn’t blame the people who are being misled as much as the entities selling them on this dangerous caste division. He thinks the relative social isolation and rejection that even the highest functioning ND individuals sometimes face make some more vulnerable to being drafted by illicit entities.

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Dontfeellikedancin
Dontfeellikedancin
6 months ago
Reply to  OHFFS

Just clarifying, I hope my comment didn’t come off as saying I don’t think people with ASD can’t be geniuses – just that RFK has said things to the contrary. I took my son to be screened for ASD when he was three, in part because he is hyper-focused and scary smart.

Edolf. Stealing that one!

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OHFFS
OHFFS
6 months ago

I know you didn’t mean it that way, I was just posting a general observation.

JeffWashington
JeffWashington
6 months ago

In the media circus leading up to the inauguration, I remember being shocked to learn that he had like 14 recognized children by a herd of baby mamas. Like, I understand that rich people are generally crazy, but damn! I mean, he can afford the child support.

And of course…those are the ones he is willing to acknowledge. I can just imagine this Walder Frey-Game of Thrones Succession Crisis if/when something happens to him. It’ll be straight up Bleak House up in this piece.

It’s not even something I can say that I envy, though. I had enough trouble with one partner let alone enough where he needs a PR person to take care of them.

Kinda makes me sad that the promise of money way outweighs how compromised this individual is to some people. It’s pretty bad when people have to call you out on your own platform because you aren’t responding to your emails concerning, you know, the kid you are legally obligated to financially rear until they reach adulthood.

I hope he gets his dream of sending people to Mars. Maybe then he will stop creating more ill-will between people and go back to making awful looking robot trucks.

Feliz Jueves!

Dontfeellikedancin
Dontfeellikedancin
6 months ago
Reply to  JeffWashington

And it was GRIMES who had to call him out! She surely has her own money. All she needed was for him to authorize some medical care, as I understand it.

Best Thing
Best Thing
6 months ago
Reply to  JeffWashington

A better dream is he goes to Mars and leaves the people in peace.

Stephen
Stephen
6 months ago

Anyone that has ever read and been involved with this website has to be having a little PTSD right about now. Musk uses his wealth to leverage whatever it is he thinks he is doing. Trump is a charasmatic pathological liar. Both are narcassists of the highest order. We know that a person that cheats on their spouse and/or girlfriend (like Musk and Trump) are so full of themselves that they can’t understand why anyone would reject or not like them; even the people they abuse with their behavior.

Victims of these narcissists know that it is never what they say and always what they actually do that counts. The media and the stock market need to stop reacting to what these two say and start reacting to what they are actually doing. Musk fathered 14 children with I don’t know how many different women and thinks he is a sire on a stud farm. Trump gave Musk unlimited power to rampage through the federal government and fire people for no apparent reason while he (Musk) also collects private information on the American people for his personal business use. Trump raised tariffs on countries. Trump gave ICE permission to arbirarily round up people the local ICE officers think are “illegal immigrants or are gang members based on tattoos” and have those people deported without any real evidence or due process.

These are the only things they have both done. When Musk and Trump are asked questions about what they are doing they follow the cheaters handbook: they get angry, deflect, deny, and blame the victims. The US Supreme Court is like our Switzerland relatives and friends. Congress is like our relatives and friends that just want us to get over it already and sing Kumbaya together.

Everything else Musk and Trump say is bullshit just like everything our cheaters said to us as they tried to “explain” themselves or how important it is that no one else know what they do and did. When we finally had enough we threw our cheaters out and somehow wound up on this website to help us through our darkest days.

chumpydumpy
chumpydumpy
6 months ago
Reply to  Stephen

I was just saying to my therapist today that my STBX is like Trump – same exact playbook. That is why I am finding it extremely difficult to have any logical discussion, even through lawyers, with him. Everything needs to be his way. If anyone has any ideas on how to fight back (so far I have been going steady with the same message through lawyers, which has been costing a lot), I am all ears!

Stephen
Stephen
6 months ago
Reply to  chumpydumpy

Personally, eat the shit sandwich, stop fighting, cut your losses and move on. You’re not quitting you are cutting your losses. I know it sucks but by the time you get anywhere near the middle of an agreement with a fuckwit you will be angry, bitter and broke. I’ve met several women on the dating trail that had similar stories. You have a better story by being the better person.

Once the divorce is complete just document his behavior if it is bad or violates whatever the divorce says and go back to court. My fuckwit-ex-wife was using child support from her first husband to buy drugs. He did not know until he found out what she did to me. He filed a petition with the court, I agreed to help, but he didn’t need me. The judge ended the child support payments to her.

BigCityChump
BigCityChump
6 months ago

Anyone who wants to watch a documentary about these super breeding freaks should watch this. Crazy town!!!

https://www.netflix.com/title/81653509

Samsara
Samsara
6 months ago
Reply to  BigCityChump

Or if you can stomach it, there is this devastating true story which is even more horrific if possible.

“Our Father” — about the creepiest ObGyn fertility specialist in the world, who literally swapped his sperm in for the embryos of unsuspecting couples and produced (this is the known number at least) 94 children as a result.

https://time.com/6176310/our-father-true-story-netflix/

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ChumpyGirlKC
ChumpyGirlKC
6 months ago

Makes one want to VOMIT.

Dudette
Dudette
6 months ago

I can’t imagine why anyone would breed with this man. Money is not an aphrodisiac for sane people.

Next up: marriage policing and pick me dancing, starring Pete Hegseth. He included his wife on Signalgate 2.0 and she’s attended numerous confidential meetings. Looks like she’s doing double duty, policing both dicks and drinking.

Velvet Hammer
Velvet Hammer
6 months ago

Google “sexual harassment Tesla” for some research on the dysfunctional work environment.

Elon Musk has the money and the power to create the work culture he wants and enforce it. The behavior accepted on the lower rungs of the corporate ladder is enabled and modeled by the man at the top.

I own a manufacturing company that makes parts for Tesla, something which I am no longer proud of but we have a contract. A colleague of ours makes parts for SpaceX and Blue Origin.

I can personally testify that Elon is a jerk.

nomar
nomar
6 months ago

I know that genes don’t control the character of offspring (my mom was a SAINT and her dad was a party-boy loser who left the family when she was a year old and never met her), but why do these guys who think their genes need to dominate the gene pool tend to look like contipated weasels and have all the charm of an over-full diaper from a toddler who’s been eating nothing but curries? I get why some folks think the world would be a better place if there were six dozen little Keanu Reeves or George Clooneys running around, but who could think we need that many little Elons, or Andrew Tates, or Enrique Tarrios? One of each seems more than enough!

OHFFS
OHFFS
6 months ago
Reply to  nomar

White supremacists think we need more whites, regardless of how creepy they are. Edolph is beloved only among his fellow Nazi dingalings.

Samsara
Samsara
6 months ago
Reply to  OHFFS

Upvoted for Edolph OHFFS 👏

OHFFS
OHFFS
6 months ago

Musk’s maternal grandparents were literal Nazis. They tried to start up a Nazi movement in Canada in the 40s, but naturally they didn’t find many other sympathizers. So they moved to South Africa because they liked the white supremacist apartheid movement. Musk’s mother, Maye, later married a prominent South African politician, so he was exposed to and taught racism from an early age. Maye Musk has been a fascist all her life and is a Trumper. Within such a family of appalling fascist scum, what were Edolph’s chances of being normal? He is creating his “legion” because he believes the “white nation” has superior genetics and needs to breed in order to outnumber the other races and crush them. It’s about eugenics. That’s how evil he is.
Maye Musk is undoubtedly very proud of her ketamine addicted, sieg heiling, legion building son.
Fuck him. Fuck him with a barge pole.

Elsie_
Elsie_
6 months ago

YEs, just ick and ick. Elon is getting away with this because he’s so wealthy and offers a financial package to each mom. He’s in his fifties, and who knows how long this trainwreck will go on.