Jada and Will Smith Are Divorced?
Are Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith divorced? Huh? Oversharing celebrity nitwit Jada wants you to know every cringetacular detail of her relationship with Will — including the new revelation that they have no relationship.
‘Not a divorce on paper’
According to the Today Show…
In an exclusive clip from her upcoming NBC News prime-time special with Hoda Kotb — which will air on Oct. 13 at 8 p.m. ET/PT on NBC — Pinkett Smith confirms to Hoda that there’s more to her marriage than she has previously shared.
According to Pinkett Smith, she and Smith have been separated and have lived “completely separate lives” since 2016, nearly 20 years after they married in 1997.
Pinkett Smith details more about their relationship — both how it started, and where it stands now — in her upcoming memoir “Worthy,” out Oct. 17.
In the preview clip, Hoda asks Pinkett Smith for details about the marriage revelation in her memoir, which she says “surprised her the most” out of the book’s “many surprising things.”
While the two are still legally married, Pinkett Smith explains to Kotb that she and Smith are no longer romantically together.
“It was not a divorce on paper,” Kotb clarifies.
“Right,” Pinkett Smith responds.
“…but it was a divorce,” Kotb continues.
“Divorce,” Pinkett Smith emphasizes.
My first thought was this is standard Stupid Shit Cheaters Say. We were divorced… for all practical purposes… in our minds. The chump just never got the memo.
My second thought was: Has anyone told Esther Perel?
Our favorite blog arch nemesis was their go-to therapist! This is not helping the My Marriage Is Stronger for Fucking Around brand one bit.
What the point was of all those Red Table Talks exploring Jada’s complicated love rhombuses?
That was so 2019, Tracy.
Yeah, but now Jada’s saying they’ve been divorced since 2016.
I cannot pretend to understand this timeline.
What was the point in Will Smith defending his non-relationship relationship by slugging Chris Rock at the Academy Awards in 2022? I mean, why would you expend all that energy on your ex-wife of many years? What was that pick me dance about?
As Rock says, “His wife was fucking their son’s best friend. She hurt him way more than he hurt me.”
Jada tells NBC in her latest bid for centrality:
When Kotb asks directly why the couple hadn’t previously shared their relationship status, Pinkett Smith says it came down to “just not being ready yet … Still trying to figure out between the two of us how to be in partnership … In regards to, how do we present that to people? We hadn’t figured that out.”
Oh, I think you figured it out, Jada. By partnership you mean humiliating Will Smith with an endless buffet of sophisticated shit sandwiches.
Remember THE ENTANGLEMENT?
Here’s a snippet from my earlier snark:
Jada:
“As time went on, I got into a different kind of entanglement with August.”
Will:
“You brought yourself to the red table, you need to say clearly… what happened?”
Jada (plays dumb, as if a kitten had been presented with a quadratic equation):
“As what?”
Oh, hang on, maybe she remembers.
“I got into an entanglement with August.”
Entanglements are affairs, Will, catch up.
Will:
“An “entanglement”? A RELATIONSHIP.”
Jada bursts into giggles. Your labels are so droll.
“A relationship! I was in a lot of pain. And I was very broken.”
Whoa, a few minutes ago Jada you said you had an amiable separation. It’s all LOVE! The UBT is creeped out how you flipped the channel from charm to self-pity.
Jada:
“And you can’t find happiness outside yourself.”
The UBT thinks there is nothing outside yourself, Jada. Such is the gravitational pull of your ego.
Will:
“What were you looking for?”
Jada:
“I just wanted to feel good. It had been SO LONG since I felt good. And it was really a joy to just help heal somebody! I think that has a lot to do with my codependency.”
Yes, she’s a Hollywood actress with a telegenic husband, lovely children, and millions in the bank, but she’s sad. SO LONG she had suffered. Get jiggy with your pick-me dance, Will.
Jada isn’t fucking a family friend, she’s just experiencing the JOY OF HEALING. Can’t you see how unselfish she is?
And fucking a family friend has been a teachable moment.
“I”m grateful for that lesson. Aug taught me that.”
Will Smith’s face:
***
Will, please make this imaginary Jada divorce a real divorce. No more shit sandwiches, okay? No promoting Jada’s new book. Jada is “worthy” all right.
Of total irrelevance.
I’m so glad that Chris Rock seems to have forgiven Will for this and recognized his pain. In the early days of my separation, I was emotionally all over the place and lashed out once or twice in ways that I’m not proud of, and I’m not even in the public eye (although I never hit anyone). It can’t help that Will has to deal with Pester Peril as his couple’s therapist. I can’t imagine what it must be like to have a therapist tell you that, actually, your humiliation is GOOD for the marriage. The absolute rage that Will must have been walking around with daily must have been incredible.
They were actually involved with Perel? No wonder he’s been going through such a disaster. She should have a Shit Sandwich Franchise.
Hm. I watched the video of Chris Rock, and I didn’t think he seemed “forgiving” of Will Smith. CL had a column the other day about the dubious obligation to forgive. I mean, pain is one thing, hitting somebody like that is … just no.
My original comment was based just on the quote in the article. After that I went and read the transcript from Chris Rock’s special and I agree that he hasn’t really forgiven Will, but at that point it was too late edit my comment.
Be prepared for ratings-grabbing, eye-rolling by the entertainment news industry always ending with “it’s none of our business”. This is where Switzerland friends come from.
We Chumps fail to understand that, for the Cheater, time is non-linear and thus amenable to retrospective revision as many times as is required to best serve the Cheater’s narrative. For the Cheater it is quite OK to have said something about an event in 2016 during an interview in 2019 and then present a completely different “reality” in an interview in 2023 without there being any inherent contradiction. This could be because they have a book to sell, however as often as not, it’s to tell a new lie because the old lie just got exposed for what it was – a lie.
And, while I’m at it, the whole “divorced just not on paper” schtick in a bunch of crap; just another variation on the Cheater saying that their actions are excused by the fact that their marriage to the Chump had “been dead for years” …. which inevitably comes as news to the Chump.
LFTT
“by the fact that their marriage to the Chump had “been dead for years” …”
Right? I certainly didn’t know our marriage was dead for the 12 years I was scrimping and saving so he could have his boat and other toys, volunteering in the community at fws request because he wanted to someday be mayor, or for the two years I worked in politics when he gave up on the mayor thing and wanted to oust the old mayor. (By the way I agreed the old mayor was awful, but the volunteer work was to help my husband because I trusted him and trusted his opinion). (at the time I thought he was who I thought he was, and would make a fantastic mayor)
I didn’t know anything was amiss until right after he got his captains bars, I guess he was done with me then; and figured he could just throw me to curb and bring in the whore and nothing would change for him. Yeah, no; it didn’t turn out that way, but it took about two years for the complete fall out for him. But I think his strategy was to slowly treat me worse and worse until I d’d him, but someone filed an ethics complaint against him and his house of cards fell.
Turns out you can lie to your faithful powerless wife with pretty much impunity, but you lie to someone with power; whole different story. Go figure.
“We Chumps fail to understand that, for the Cheater, time is non-linear and thus amenable to retrospective revision as many times as is required to best serve the Cheater’s narrative. For the Cheater it is quite OK to have said something about an event in 2016 during an interview in 2019 and then present a completely different “reality” in an interview in 2023 without there being any inherent contradiction.”
True. I think they lie to themselves so much that they get confused and forget the old version. So they come up with something new and actually believe the revised version must be true. They cannot tell the difference between self deceptions and memories. It’s hard enough to keep track of spoken lies. Keeping track of the contents of a warehouse full of self deceptions would be impossible. I know my FW has a severe problem with this. He could literally come up with a new version within minutes of telling the old one, then deny ever saying the old one. I could tell he meant it, too. That look of panicked confusion when confronted with the discrepancy could not be faked. That’s what happens to your brain when you live by lies, to yourself and to others.
My dad used to do this. And I’m pretty sure it was compounded by brain damage from his alcoholism.
Examples – the time he told me “no one” in his family had ever been divorced. One of his grandmothers was in 1913. Or saying that my mother “stole” “his” money. The only separate money he ever had was what he inherited from my grandmother. I refrained from arguing with him because really, what was the point?
Ayyyy…
XW and AP have a revised timeline that is heartwarming to everyone who hears it. As they told the kids, they were both going through similar difficult patches in their marriages and found support in each other. This is true to the outside world (they had been working together for years, both left their spouses the same week, and went public a few months later). Unfortunately, the actual “difficult patches” they were going through were that both were having affairs, which is really not that much of a coincidence because they were having affairs with each other! But if you just push the timeline a year (or maybe two? I’m still not totally clear on the timing), their relationship sounds like something from a romance novel. I am convinced that they’ve even convinced themselves of the rewritten timeline. I do know that AP told his wife “nothing happened between me and IG’s wife until our marriage was over” – while he was still married to her!
AP told his wife “nothing happened between me and IG’s wife until our marriage was over” – while he was still married to her!
🤦♀️
This is why we don’t untangle the skein, for IG’s wife’s AP or for Jada. It’s a trap fashioned outside of logic or reality, a Gordian knot made out of snakes.
I had to check to see if there might be such a thing– a Gordian knot made from snakes. Well, would ya believe it… https://images.app.goo.gl/F4nMp9Y9qSattSoy9
“For the Cheater it is quite OK to have said something about an event in 2016 during an interview in 2019 and then present a completely different “reality” in an interview in 2023 without there being any inherent contradiction.”
…which results in some crazy-making gaslighting.
In general, I think most people want to believe that the marriage was already dead before the affair started. The alternative–that the cheater simply felt entitled to cheat–feels so…ugly.
The marriage-was-already-dead narrative bestows on cheaters both comfort and praise:comfort for having so admirably endured an oh-so-difficult marriage for God knows how long and praise for having so bravely moved on to a new partner who will make the cheater “happier.” Let’s not quibble about timelines. Who wouldn’t deny a cheater much-deserved happiness? And they reason that the chump will probably be happier, too. All’s well that ends well.
This narrative fries my ass. I’m quite sure my ex used it to his advantage.🤬
Question for my ex: “If you were so unhappy for 10 years, why, at that time, did you get my initials tattooed on your nether regions, and why did you send me letters confessing your love?”
Squishy timelines indeed.
They lie, lie, lie. They will do or say whatever furthers their own interests.
Jada, Esther….ugh.
“The alternative–that the cheater simply felt entitled to cheat–feels so…ugly.”
Also it is a lot less scary for other to think that one can be in a solid marriage and their partner might cheat. Of course we who are cheated on were not in solid marriages, we just didn’t know that. That scares the crap out of folks who do think they are in a solid marriage.
My XW ran head-long into a problem with our therapist: she wanted us to begin with acknowledging that whatever I had done was equivalent to her cheating. The therapist said no, they’re not the same at all. XW walked out, and later returned for a solo session to tell the therapist why our marriage ending was his (the therapist’s) fault.
And I bet the therapist has heard this before…
Just a funny aside, re my therapist. We aren’t in couple’s counseling, so it’s just me and my side of things. Generally, there is a professional distance to how she responds to the things I tell her about him. She is there, after all, just to help me navigate how I deal with him and life in general. But he had done some serious sad-sausaging that week combined it with some rages against me for not forgiving him, and I told her one detail that actually got a “Well then what the hell is he complaining about???” from her. She pretty quickly regained her composure. It was rather validating for me though.
“most people want to believe that the marriage was already dead before the affair started”
My Wasband was fucking around before, during, and after the marriage. So I guess the marriage was always dead, before it ever had a chance to be alive.
I feel bad for laughing but what you wrote suddenly made me imagine if “marriage abortion” was a thing. I visualized groups picketing cheaters for killing relationships before they’d even had a chance to form. Not actually funny, I know.
Yep. Timelines, feelings, and vows come with flexibility. Cheaters are very honest people, very loving, and very caring. They care so much that they need to find someone else so they can release you to your healing journey.
I wonder why counselors will never call a cheater out on their lies or cognitive dissonance? Oh, I know because that would cause a confrontation and that is bad and assign some blame onto a “complicated individual”, it’s easier to put the blame on the chump because chumps are chumps and will bear the burden.
Not that I’m happy to hear about your experiences with lousy couples therapy but I’m a little heartened to hear that it isn’t just a gender discrimination thing when therapists coddle male FWs at the expense of she-chumps. I saw six therapists in a row coddling the living sh*t out of FW. At the time I wondered if it’s because he’s a man (liberal use of the term).
But given the he-chump experience, if anything, the abuser-coddling just sounds like a general “bully mentality” or a “social Calvinism” bias against victims– any victims regardless of gender or other particulars. The way cowards respond to witnessing any conflict is to figure who’s the most dangerous party to cross (perpetrators) and then being sure not to offend them. In the immediate aftermath of cheating, it probably always looks like FWs are “winning” and those on the receiving end are the “losers.”
If you think about, it’s like an IQ test on top of a character test. Objectively speaking, I think that kneejerk bias against chumps is ugly, weak and spineless, not to mention stupid because, if these idiots stuck around, their assumptions of who was the “winner” or “loser” in the situation would eventually be radically corrected. Most FWs don’t end well.
I absolutely agree that most FW do not end well. With money of course a lot of the fall out can be covered with some sugar, but liars and cheats take themselves with them when they depart. That is a fact of life.
The chumps will take themselves with them as they rebuild, most chumps are decent folks, so that is who they take with them.
“The way cowards respond to witnessing any conflict is to figure who’s the most dangerous party to cross (perpetrators) and then being sure not to offend them.” Absolutely. My first husband was not only scarily aggressive but also charismatic and pretty famous. Like any teenage wannabe, the therapist we saw after D-Day went into a fog of emulative yearning, tinged with fear of giving offense, which threw off the “treatment” and ended up causing not just me but also my daughter a lot of needless suffering.
“Like any teenage wannabe, the therapist we saw after D-Day went into a fog of emulative yearning, tinged with fear of giving offense…”
That made me laugh so hard. Though the effect was lost on me, apparently FW in my situation resembled some slimy soap actor that provincial Walmart greeters and elderly female couples therapists found “super hot.” I witnessed quite a bit of embarrassing church-lady flirting with FW. To give you full credit and a medal for valor, it must be so much worse when a FW actually IS the soap actor/celebrity/famous nobody setting off therapeutic masturbatory fantasies.
We had a therapist that did call out my XW’S BS rationalizations. It ended the therapy pretty quick. So therapists generally want to keep couples coming back in hopes something can change and to keep their appointment calender full. This of course just gives the abuser more opportunities to beat up on the victim and build their own case of moral superiority. I was fortunate that our therapist did not play that game. She took my XW one on one to listen to her justifications. We then met one more time as a couple where XW told me she wanted to continue with divorce. I met one more time with therapist who told me XW has a lot of problems and you can’t fix them. Basically congratulating me for being free of the FW.
So grateful to have found a good one!
Similar here. I am so lucky that our couples therapist really took my Ex to task. It was so satisfying.
There are some good ones out there, but sadly many do not want to hold anyone to account, just explore feelings and why they are the way they are. The narrative around happiness and the individual is almost at an unhealthy level.
Wow, I remember watching that back then and thinking how awful that was for Will. I never understood why he stayed with her as she was so smug and unapologetic for her actions. He seems like a good dude and does not deserve the shit sandwich she fed him!
That woman is a terrifying and unloveable monster and Will helped create it and continues to protect it, in part due to his own narcissism. Mary Shelley could tell you how this unholy fucktangle of outsize egos is likely to end.
I get the reference to Mary Shelley. The film on her relationship with Percy Bryce Shelley was really well done, had some beautiful performances and hit on some universal and profound issues.
Oh, shit. I didn’t know about any of this until now. Watched the red table talk and it was painful..I could just feel everything that Will was feeling. He looks so beaten down in that video. She’s glowing and making everything about herself and he’s just there, 100% chumpy and pick-me dancing, even though he says some things like he was done with her, it’s all so unconvincing. I truly hope he divorces her for real, so she loses this bullshit narrative she’s trying to sell.
You know what I can’t stand is that she acts as if she is a “Queen” very publicly, therefore, many women emulate her entitled haughty attitude believing this is how “Queens” act.
I see it almost every single day in customer service and God forbid if they don’t get their way. Especially if they want an entire expensive meal or bottle of wine for free and they don’t get it because nothing was wrong with the meal or the wine. They unleash the hounds upon you with smear campaigns, physical altercations, threats, actually shooting at your business, etc. It’s disgusting how people think that it’s ok to act like this.
Yes, I worked in retail during my divorce, and the entitlement was shocking at times. I wasn’t even in sales.
One time I had to lock myself in a storeroom and call security because the person was screaming and chasing me. She was still going at it on the door when they came and convinced her to leave the store.
What if I told you the same scenario you describe has happened multiple times in my city and the perpetrators are NBA basketball players very wealthy family members or spouses. Some have even brandished guns to the sales clerks and then made very public claims that the sales clerk were racist because while there was only 1 sales clerk on the floor taking care of ALL the customers, the perpetrators weren’t waited on hand and foot. It’s deplorable! Makes me really hate people.
I’m in the fine dining world and one brought her posse of 30-40 friends of which they hijacked our entire restaurant (only 10 people ordered anything) and they stayed for 4+ hours. When it was time to close at 10pm they got mad because they wanted to stay there “all night” as if we were a bar. One “Queen” tried to fight our manager, a guy peed his pants in the middle of our dining room (pee pee went everywhere), and two took dumps on the bathroom floor – one smearing it on the walls. We are talking about a fine dining restaurant where the average ticket cost per person is $95 and THAT is how they acted because it was closing time and they couldn’t stay all night.
Sports stars are usually associated with humble origins but, just to add another dimension, I went to prep schools and rubbed elbows with “old money.” I’m here to attest that “old money” isn’t any different than “new” in terms of degrees of psychopathic entitlement and piggishness. Old money is just a little more careful of the cameras.
Yes, I believe it. I live in a metropolitan area with some very wealthy people, indeed. As I said, I wasn’t in sales, but I heard about the highrollers and how horrible they were if we didn’t have exactly what they wanted when they wanted it.
Thankfully, I was able to leave that job, but it was quite an experience.
“The fact that I have in the past four years contributed to the creation and perpetuation of falsehoods about myself, in which other untrue narratives were birthed, has surely aided in the misunderstandings that surround me.”
ChatGPT simplification for someone with a 3rd grade reading level: “I made up stories about myself for the last four years, and that caused people to not understand me.”
#cuttingthroughthebullshit
Self-reclamation? Rewriting the narrative (version #300) once again will never excuse your actions. But..but…
I can’t imagine the pain this wicked woman put Will through. Run, Will, run!
We separated due to my ex’s inability to not rage and break shit. He swore up and down that he was going to “do everything” to get his family back.
When I found out during this time he started daily emailing and texting with an old girlfriend who was swearing her undying love for him, suddenly we were “basically divorced” and I had apparently told him it was “fine” for him to have a girlfriend.
FW’s like Jada always have some twist on the truth that instantly absolves themselves.
I have FOO issues that leave me with some fierce anxiety around confrontation and tension. My DDay was in lock down. I had nowhere to go. And the idea of making a move against him while having to cohabitate was petrifying, literally and figuratively for me. So things dragged out and yes, some pick me dancing ensued. Later, he threw that back at me as “well I thought you were fine with it, you seemed fine”. I was never fine, but what was I supposed to do, hurl dishes and frying pans at him in front of our children when I knew that I couldn’t leave and would have to live with him? I was afraid for my life. But hey, made him feel better to think that I was ok with his affair.
When I worked in DV advocacy, I remember one client who was wiser than most of the advocates and even some of the therapists working with the service. She would describe how, when entrapped by her horrifically violent abuser and forced to have sex, she would sometimes say “fuck it” and decided to have orgasms because it’s healthy, has cardiac benefits and might help her live another day for her kids. God I loved her and her “fuckit” honesty. There are many things that people do in captivity that might not be understood or might even be condemned by ignorant bystanders but she honestly didn’t care what the “uninitiated” thought of her survival strategy, particularly given that it worked and she survived against considerable odds. She was so funny and bs-free that she helped many other survivors to bootstrap and laugh their ways through their ordeals.
It’s hard to know what’s what here, but she’s a mess.
Logically, I can see not bothering with the legal side of things though. Warren Buffet’s wife Susan took off to live with someone else and pursue music. She remained involved in his business. He didn’t marry Astrid Menks until Susan died decades later.
Yeah, there are some folks who don’t bother with the legal side of divorce, for their own quirky reasons. My parents did it that way. They separated around 1980 due to incompatibility and thereafter owned separate houses, yet never filed divorce. However, neither of them ever had a new partner. Mom’s departure was in anger, but eventually they got back to sharing family events and even lunches out together. They didn’t discuss their reasons with me, but as my dad said when we were all grieving my mom’s sudden passing in 1995: “Your mother and I couldn’t live together, but we were pretty good friends.”
The Jada/Will situation is far different from that, with her disingenuous affair semantics, his inexcusable slap, and now a blurt book. I’m hoping he claws himself out of her clutches.
Well she says herself, I just wanted to feel GOOD! Pretty much sums it up.
Cheaters are all looking to feel good. Feeling GOOD trumps vows, good character, commitment. If it feels GOOD for chumps to dump em, why do they get mad? We deserve to feel GOOD too.
I guess she went off the FW script for a second – they’re supposed to say they’re getting “needs” met instead of “I wanna feel good, so screw you.”
My hot take, I hope no one buys her garbage book.
I find this entire story so frustrating. Maybe I’m just having a bad day. But I have seen gossip stories about their marriage off and on through some of the drama, but it was never clear what was actually going on. Many thought they had an open relationship, but if that were true this whole thing with August wouldn’t have been a problem.
It just feels like the whole thing was a big mess and they kept putting out details for the world to see, but were mostly lying. They certainly tried to portray their marriage as aspirational while the truth was that no one should aspire to that. Maybe I am not remembering clearly, but it always seemed like you’d hear that something bad happened in their marriage, and their responses would keep changing” “No that bad thing didn’t happen”, “the bad thing did happen, but it wasn’t a bad thing because Will was ok with it” to “Will is not ok at all”
Will’s pain sure looks real, though.
As far as the squishy timeline goes, somehow I am still completely shocked every time I see evidence that all the cheaters behave nearly identically. I can understand, not condone but semi-understand, the concept of their lying at times. There are some lies that can save the FW huge $,or even keep the chump from dumping them. Lying is still a wretched thing to do, but sure, I can at least understand that the FW is trying to get away with something and sometimes,they COULD get away with it with just a single lie. But all tis fudging of timelines that are already out there documented? It’s so pointless and aggravating.
I saw this in the news cycle yesterday and thought to send it to you. It seems our dear Chump Lady has her fine fingers on the pulse of infidelity news, putting the five fingers of Fate on those that deserved a five-fingered bitch slap.
As for the timing, my guess is that Jada is jumping the good ship Will Smith because his stock value cratered after the Oscar Slap and she’s cashing in one last time with this book.
My understanding is that Will cheated with Jada on his first wife Sheree. I have been very unimpressed with what I have seen of Red Table Talk. The look on Will Smith’s face during the episode where they talk about her cheating says more than the entirety of whatever is in this book which I will never spend money on but might read if I see a copy at the Goodwill. For laughs.
I used to love Will Smith back before I found out about the horrible Jada shit and it made me feel sorry for him and also….why do you put up with this horrible woman, Will? There are rumors about his private life, that he might be gay, and if they are true, I hope someday he can just be whoever he is, whatever that is, without this fakery with Jada who just seems like an awful user who latched onto him and rode it for all she was worth. Apparently she has said recently that Chris Rock was trying to date her or put the make on her or something before the slapping incident. I don’t know it that’s true or an excuse but personally…..I’d like to see Will get clear of her legally and in all other ways, and live a good wholesome authentic life without these toxic games. He is such a talented man and for what it’s worth, so good looking (yeah, I’m shallow), he doesn’t need this.
There was some buzz that Will cheated as well prior to all of this.
I read that on here, I did not know that. Well, you know what goes around comes around. But really, he can’t stay with this woman. Now she’s saying she’s never going to get a divorce….it’s like he’s living in a hostage situation. He needs to read CL.
This mess is the Karma Bus running over BOTH Cheater Will and Cheater Jada. Recall that Jada was the OW when Will was married to his incredibly good/Chumpy first wife, Sheree, who is Trey’s mother. Imagine the coparenting shit sandwiches Sheree has to have eaten over the years – horrors!
Watching OW Jada have two more kids with Will… and these FWits go and basically name their kids after themselves, WILLow and JADen.
I bet Sheree is far too sweet of a person to get the tasty Schadenfreude I definitely would in her shoes out of watching this incredibly public trainwreck. If it were me, I’d be devouring that Orville Redenbacher and high-fiving everyone in sight. 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿Opposite of Meh, I know. Lol
According to Leah Remini, Jada is a scientologist, and though Jada denies it, Jada also admits taking classes there. (As far as I can tell, Will is not a scientologist.) That might explain part of the weirdness around the divorce issue, divorce being something that the Scientology brass might discourage for PR reasons. Or maybe the Smiths were trying to shield their kids (which seems weird, given how rampant divorce is in Hollywood). Or maybe she/he/both fear that getting divorced would show their “open-minded” attitudes toward marriage was nothing more than a convenient narrative to avoid being branded as a cheater? In the end, who knows?
From where I sit, though, once people speaks in word salad about “relationships” and “my narrative” and “healing” the way Jada does, I don’t trust them.
The Smiths should just get divorced already. I think Will could still salvage his reputation after the Oscar-Chris Rock-slugging debacle (he’s a talented guy), but I don’t know if he will be able to do so if he stays hitched to that toxic train-wreck, even if only on paper. I’m not a fan if either and would be happy to never hear anything about their so-called marriage again.
“From where I sit, though, once people speaks in word salad about “relationships” and “my narrative” and “healing” the way Jada does, I don’t trust them.”
Me too. It’s how dishonest, self absorbed people who wanted to seem evolved talk. Dead giveaway.
Just saw the post that Will cheated on his first wife. Well then it would seem that Jada-related humiliation is just desserts. Why not end the misery of that relationship completely with a divorce and live a more honest life?
The answer is probably “money.” It so often is. Maye they don’t have a prenup. And California is a community property state.
Some of what I am seeing — “poor Will, he was so broken by her” — feels like spackle to me. He cheated on his first wife. He certainly had agency about assaulting someone very, very publicly. He’s 100% responsible for that action. I don’t think of him as a chump at all. He’s a cheater who is reaping what he sowed. Violence of any sort is not okay.
Yep, I was totally dismantled, crushed and I had no cushy bank account to help me. Not once was I tempted to punch out fw or anyone else. Oh for the first few weeks I had a floating in the river fantasy, but I knew it was wrong.
That is quite a mouthful of Waldorf word salad. Narrative this, journey that, challenging, adventures, search for happiness, bla bla bla. She’s using copious amounts of buzzwords and phrases that are popular among douchebags. You know you’re dealing with a dishonest person when they talk this way. They natter on and on with their impression management and you can’t make out what exactly they are trying to say, because you aren’t meant to. They operate on the befuddling with bullshit principle because they can’t dazzle with their brilliance, though they think they are doing just that.
Diagnosis; narcissist.
YES! “They operate on the befuddling with bullshit principle because they can’t dazzle with their brilliance, though they think they are doing just that.”
I remember the first time I heard what CL coined as word salad. Or at least I think CL did. This is where I first saw it.
It was in a meeting at work. I had heard folks making fun of business jargon. Anyway our big boss sat there and out of her mouth came a long line of business jargon sentences. It made absolutely no sense to me, I looked around and everyone else had the looking down or side eye stance.
What I didn’t know because I was new was this woman had been promoted so far above her head that it was frightening. Sad thing was, she was the sweetest person you could ever meet, she was not disliked but she was not respected in her position.
Is Jada on drugs? Despite rumors she was a Scientologist and some dabbling with a series of religions, she publicly distanced herself from the cult at some point. Point being, she may not currently have any particular ideological prohibitions against using drugs or medications. So is she? I wonder because a lot of her behavior and nonsensical rambling remind me of the behavior of people I knew in LA, “showbiz” types who’d gone full Michael Jackson and had gotten quacks to write them scripts for a half a dozen or a dozen different “palliative substances.” A few of them didn’t seem that disordered prior to being heavily medicated. I can attest that watching someone go through that transition is frightening.
Anyway, apparently there can be overlaps between “drug induced dementia” and Cluster B stuff. It can theoretically also affect sexual behavior. I went to a reform psychiatry conference about ten years ago and one of the presenters, some prominent psychiatrist in DC, was talking about cases in the news involving suicide or murder suicide among celebrities where the individual responsible had been taking massive medication cocktails. The title of the talk was something about “polypharmacy” or the practice of combining a mess of medications at the same time, sometimes using one to “treat” the side effects of another until the person was being carpet bombed. The presenter said that this was common in showbiz because of the intense stress involved in that industry. Anyway, the presenter described some drug-addled behavior as “eerily Cluster B-like.”
Huh! Maybe.
Very interesting!
I would guess Smith hasn’t divorced her for financial reasons. Although I would expect that they have a prenup
I hope he does though.
I’m confused as to why anyone would be interested in reading what Jada has to say about anything. I read a portion of a review on Amazon that says the book is gripping, and painfully honest and inspirational from a global superstar. Honest?? The public can believe her this time? More importantly who cares?
I have no interest in reading the thoughts of a cheater, or a woman who sleeps with her sons friend.
Weird isn’t it? Oh so NOW she is telling the truth.
You know if I had had anyone, even a relative tell me that my pain and utter emotional,/financial/social destruction was actually good for my marriage; I might be in prison today.
Luckily for EP I am not her ultimate judge.
I also think JP is among the most vacuous people in Hollywood, or anywhere else.
Though it may be a close tie with Gwyneth Paltrow. Maybe they can come up with a new business selling the gas that emits from both of them; could solve our energy situation.
“I invite you into a journey…” because I am the center of the universe and of course you will want to read my book. Can’t get much more narcissistic than that.
My thought on this is that hanging on to that marriage has only made Will Smith’s life worse. Anything would be better than being married to that narcissist.