James Dobson RIC Quack Dies
James Dobson, the author of “Love Must Be Tough” died last month and with him a giant pile of victim-blaming misogyny.
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If you ever spent any time in the Reconciliation Industrial Complex “support” communities, you were probably bombarded with James Dobson’s “Love Must Be Tough” recommended as an essential text. I remember it widely touted on certain site (which shall remain nameless, but you’d know it by the 14 D-day taglines). The book was a must-read because, finally! At last! Here was a professional passing judgment on cheaters as bad actors. Full of sin! The desperate looked to Dobson to help them save their marriages.
Who was James Dobson?
He was a right-wing televangelist who founded the lobbying organization Focus on the Family. Among his many charming beliefs was support for “beating the sin out of children.”
According to a London Times obituary:
He wrote Dare to Discipline (1970), a manual for the corporal punishment of children between 18 months and 12 years old: “The spanking should be of sufficient magnitude to cause the child to cry genuinely,” he advised. “Pain is a marvellous purifier.” His methods were tested on both of his children and even the family dachshund, Sigmund Freud. The book sold more than two million copies.
Wouldn’t you love to do marriage counseling with this guy? Pain is purifying. But wait! He also hated gays and women!
His message was uncompromisingly conservative as he waged war on feminism and homosexuality: the family was the bedrock of civilisation, he argued, and it was undermined if wives went out to work, or by contraception, cohabitation and abortion.
So you can only imagine his enlightened views on divorce.
He told chumps they could save their marriages from the dreaded specter of maritial dissolution by improving themselves.
Here’s an excerpt from Love Must Be Tough where he reproaches Linda, whose husband is cheating. (Because, hey, natural urges.) Linda wasn’t vigilant and she must pay.
Linda’s first error occurred in not recognizing the threat imposed by a beautiful divorce. We must never underestimate the power of sexual chemistry existing between an attractive, needy, available woman and virtually any man on the face of the earth. In the case of Linda’s husband, he suddenly found himself hopscotching between their two houses to provide whatever service the gorgeous-one might desire, while his wife concluded, “It seemed innocent.” Innocent indeed! That’s like a farmer thinking the fox visited his henhouse because it enjoyed the company of chickens!
Sounds like the pick me dance to me. I’m not sure I follow the logic of marriage cock-blocking all those attractive needy available women. But it doesn’t matter. DANCE LINDA!
Only you can pull that playboy back from the precipice.
Linda’s second error occurred after observing that her marriage was going downhill. That was an extremely important moment in their relationship when an appropriate reaction from Linda might have pulled her playboy husband back from the precipice. But alas, she was ill prepared for the task. She nagged and complained. How inadequate but how human! Her husband was rapidly falling head over heels in love with “the other woman,” and Linda’s only response was hand wringing and verbal abuse. That form of reproof is about as effective with a wayward spouse as it is with a disobedient toddler: he doesn’t even hear it!
And don’t you want to win back a disobedient toddler with a penchant for precipices? Mustn’t nag! Mustn’t scold! He can be a toddler, but don’t you dare be Mommy.
Lonely ‘broken homes’ and divorce
The key word in the next phase of this story is panic. Linda could see the handwriting on the wall. It scrawled the frightening word divorce and moved on. How terrifying to one whose entire life is her family! She could visualize herself as the mother of three fatherless children, struggling to survive financially and emotionally in a lonely, broken home. Furthermore, she was losing the man she loved with all her being. And as panic is irrational, so was her reaction to it. She brought the other woman into her bedroom in a desperate attempt to occupy even a crowded corner of her husband’s heart. What an incredible error in judgment! She soon discovered the inevitable result: “It just made him fall deeper in love with her.”
Linda, it’s your fault that dick wanders. You made him fall in love with her. I suspect it was the tone of your voice. Can you imagine a fate worse than FATHERLESS children? If Jezebel ensnares your children’s father, the blame belongs to Jezebel and you. Dicks behave only if you’re obedient. You wouldn’t want to HURT THE CHILDREN, would you?
Act now, buy a unicorn.
The best news I can give Linda is that it is still possible for her to save her marriage, but she hasn’t a minute to waste. Her husband has admitted that a spark of love still glows under the smoldering ashes (“He doesn’t want to lose me and says that he still loves me and our three kids”), but she must not smother it! One more bad move and he will be gone forever. He is in a state of confusion and can be swayed one way or the other, but how can Linda tug him in her direction? She’s tried everything in her own playbook and nothing has worked. What does she do now? If she is like so many others in today’s world, she will be baffled by the question.
I suspect the answer is send James Dobson money for his five-day email series. Yes, he can send emails from the grave. Dobson died on August 21, 2025, but his campaign lives on. In fact, it rose from the grave and if it sees its shadow we have four more weeks of summer vacation.
But wait! There’s more!
When Dobson died, not only did his quack reconciliation advice die with him, but also his advocacy for wife-beating.
“By taking a beating, she instantly achieves a moral advantage in the eyes of neighbors, friends, and the law. Some wives are more verbal than their husbands and can win a war of words any day of the week. Finally, the men reach a point of such frustration that they explode, doing precisely what their wives were begging for in the first place.”
James Dobson
You made him hit you, you made him cheat. Stick around for more. Pain is purifying.
You’ll let us know from hell, won’t you, Jim?


Did he really think that cheating husbands have so little agency that their unilateral decision to cheat is the sole responsibility of their wives? The mind boggles, and is boggled even more by the fact that people clearly gave their money to him to “fix” the problems in their marriages.
I wonder what he would say about Ex-Mrs LFTT’s decision to cheat on me …. probably that it was all my fault because I let her have a job and career, drive a car, have a social life and her own friends and have access to the money that she earned as well as to our joint account.
LFTT
He sort of saw people that were not named James Dobson as unintelligent automatons. So “yes, probably.”
Televangelism doesn’t seem to come up enough when people discuss those uniquely American quirks(usually lost in the mix behind obesity and medication advertisements, I suppose). Having done some travelling, either I just missed the boat or other countries just plain don’t have it (and they are probably better for it).
He’d probably say the same thing about Ex-Mrs. Washington. Granted, doing the emotional calculus, “absolute control” required to prevent those behaviors is not something I’d want on my ledger. If he did blame either of our fuckwits it’d be out of misogynistic spite instead concerning regular good old fashioned character impairment, but I digress.
Oh noes, did you also let her read books?? Dobson is rolling in his grave!
You’re probably right about Dobson shifting the blame onto you because the Redpill idea that men are “simps” and “cucks” if they don’t break their mates like mustangs obviously grew out of this kind of antediluvian codswallop.
HoaC,
Yup, I let her read books and (clutch your pearls for a second), I even let her choose what books she read. Funny old thing, I have rather modern views about marriage and partnership and feel very strongly about equality.
Perhaps if I’d been a complete sh*t, she would never have cheated on me, but we’ll never know and I’m certainly not planning on asking her ….. because I am blissfully indifferent to her.
LFTT
Let me guess. She liked Eat Pray Love, Wild by Cheryl Strayed and the collected works of Erica Jong.
As far as whether she would have more respect for a knuckle-dragging trog, there apparently is such a thing as hybristophilia/prison groupie syndrome. It’s just basic deduction to assume most cheaters and sideys are on that “spectrum” since how else would they knowingly get involved with the types of people who’d knowingly cheat?
Lol. I just clutched my pearls so hard they’re rolling across the tiles! Blessed be the fruit!
As a practicing Christian, this garbage really bothers me. If they really cared, they would realize that they use to stone adulterers, that reconciliation may also mean to go live in peace away from the person, the old testament is full of language on how God views straying and adultery, Jesus set healthy boundaries and exhibited righteous anger (the temple), and that adultery was treated as a sin worthy of divorce (can’t stone them anymore, heh).
I wish churches would actually practice healthy church discipline, but most do not. Many also sin level, which is unbiblical, not all sin creates the same consequences.
My former church put out my husband after he left, and then seemed to agree with me when I refused to reconcile after a year. They sent him letters and tried to contact him. Silence. Then, when my ex kicked off the divorce, they were supportive. One of the elders said, “Get yourself a kick-ass attorney.”
Post-divorce, the sin levelling started, and questions about why I wasn’t “friends” with my ex became the norm. Certain people seemed way more concerned about him than they were about me. He would occasionally preach there, and people would often bring up how much they missed his sermons. A few individuals continued to pray that my ex would come back, so we could remarry. I didn’t engage much on that, but pointed out the folly of that hope. “Well, I keep praying, I hope you forgive him someday.” I brought up the very arguments you give here. Nope. Went nowhere.
Then one of the elders started a series on “marriage and family.” At first, it was things like “God can fix any marriage.” Mmm…sometimes individual choices don’t allow that. I began probing his views on divorce and singlehood after church. It turns out he views the church as marital units, comprising husbands and wives. Because I no longer have a husband, my adult kids and I are technically not a family. And single women should not buy houses and live mostly alone as I now do. One of my adult children lives with me, but they work long hours and travel frequently for business. Single adult women should live in families. Mine is not a family. So if I struggle with that, it is my fault for not living God’s way. The elder I had been engaging with used to follow Bill Gothard, but claims to have left that. No, he hasn’t. There was more, but I stepped back and considered the big picture. I don’t belong there.
I left and now attend a church that gets the nuances of broken marriages. When I spoke with the pastor about my divorce, he provided me with a far broader perspective than my former church. Sometimes divorce is a mercy when a partner really goes off the rails, he said. I agree. I haven’t heard anything to indicate sin-leveling at all.
I had not known about Dobson’s belief that “women are asking for a beating and their prestige rises among other women when they get one,” but it doesn’t surprise me, given his Lewis Carroll “speak roughly to your little boy/and beat him when he sneezes/he only does it to annoy/because he knows it teases” parenting advice.
I grew up in a violent household, and at times had to interpose myself between my father and both my mother and my baby sister, so you can imagine how much I hated James Dobson, with his blame-shifting and endorsement of domestic violence and other abusive behavior.
I lived in Colorado, and saw how Dobson turned Colorado Springs, the headquarters of Focus on the Family, into a conservative evangelical powerhouse wasteland. I also worked in a bookstore in Boulder in the 1970s, and “Dare to Discipline” was a big seller, even there (Boulder was always uber-liberal). As my own form of resistance, I used to shelve his books on the very bottom row on the backside of the paperback racks at the front of the store, so they were harder to spot and access.
I flip off his compound whenever I drive by it on I-25. Thank you for hiding his books! Boulder?!? I am in shock.
I heard that the strong Evangelical influence there infiltrated the Air Force Academy to the point it became the de facto official religion of the institution which is a bad thing. I sure hope that I am incorrect in this fact or maybe it has evolved in a different direction from when I heard this.
Unfortunately, you are correct. The Academy moved steadily to endorse Evangelical Christianity. If it has evolved back the other way in the past twenty years or so, I don’t know about it.
I don’t understand. By his logic, Linda should have punished her sinning husband until he felt true purifying pain and cried every time he even thought of the other woman.
Makes sense to me, but I doubt Dobson was much for the logic thing.
Especially as he was acting like a toddler, and all.
This comment for the win today!
Yessss!
Back in the 80s I listened to FOTF religiously and sent away for their cassette tapes and brochures. I was learning how to be a proper submissive Christian young lady and future wife! Thankfully I did not read the books Love must be tough and Dare to Discipline. I did not know he advocated physical DV against women. Disgusting horrifying quote there.Bloody hell!
A seismic shift for me in the past several years is realizing how so much of this awful stuff spouted by evangelical Christian authors I had bought into hook, line, and sinker – and then doing a 360!
I had been steeped in that world, and like many other Christian women, I almost reached a point of idolizing marriage and family – thanks to Dobson and others. I think the only books of his I read were The Strong-willed Child and Bringing Up Boys , though. Who knows how much harder it would have been to get out of my abusive marriage with my cheating spouse if I had read his marriage books.
I am cheering on the push for Christians to reject the dribble and demand better research-based and (truly biblically sound) resources, which thankfully is happening. Go Sheila Wray Gregoire, Bruce CE Fleming, Natalie Hoffman, Leslie Vernick, and many more! And podcasts like Bodies Behind the Bus and Sons of Patriarchy have been so illuminating.
I’m am mourning the loss of my relationship with my sister. The cruelty of the current presidential administration is acceptable to her – influenced, no doubt, by her intense exposure to FOTF when a young wife and mother.
She cannot explain the discrepancies with Jesus’s teachings and lies to me about her current news sources.
This is so painful for me as a childless chump.
I’m so sorry. The cult has torn many families apart.
The husband “suddenly found himself” in the clutches of another woman, as “virtually any man on the face of the earth” would.
Well. Men are quite helpless, according to Dobson, with no agency or character of their own whatsoever. So why are they the head of the household exactly? And is this why they get to hit their family members?
Someone make it make sense.
It’s the “king baby” view of masculinity. The husband/father is both the supreme ruler and unstable, immature, and easily straying.
That was how my ex and his family viewed men. Like figurative bulls in a china shop, unable to harness themselves.
After my ex left, I specifically told my son that if he ever viewed manhood that way, he’d truly get a “talkin to” from me. Thankfully, he had absorbed better thinking on his own and continues to be balanced that way.
Exactly! It’s like all men are “Brucy” from the Kids in the Hall skit “Personal Male Slave” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTtrlIWdQjU
Or maybe “Mr. Stevenson” from “Can I Keep Him”? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ves445x6to
Basically you can’t leave them alone lest they wreck the rug or die in bizarre accidents like hamsters.
As a side note, I always thought the secret ingredient of Kids in the Hall, like Monty Python, was mocking patriarchy, partly by riding on the premise that, if you take toxic masculine stereotypes and pretenses to radical extremes, they all end up absurd or animalistic or homoerotic (i.e., Python’s “Lumberjacks,” KITH’s “Hold Me,” etc.).
RIP, Andrew Tate template.
Hmm. According to Dobson, only women could be litigators, university lecturers and news anchors because men are practically pre-verbal. Dobson’s image of men is pretty much Mr. Peepers from SNL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK82bEEFPck
I think I finally understand that misogyny is actually borne of an even deeper contempt for men. It seems like a matter of bringing women down (with violence if necessary) to the same subhuman level where some men see themselves and their own gender.
It’s like when women criticize some very specific “masculine-coded” toxic behaviors (such as sexual harassment) and are automatically getting accused of being “man-haters”. This seem to imply that all men are creeps because according to this logic, hating creeps = hating men.
Yeeesss! It implies that every male they knew in childhood and have encountered since were harassers, rapists or mindless knuckle-dragging thugs which is quite tragic and pathetic if you think about it.
I was in a male-dominated field in college/graduate school, and then in a male-dominated field for many years. There were jerks, just like there are female jerks, but I had many male friends, including some incredible male officemates. Some were defenders of me before sexual harassment laws became a thing.
I discussed this with my now-ex when we were dating. He came from a very conservative background, but said he respected women in the workplace. He even said that he viewed my higher salary and position as a positive, “more for us,” he claimed.
He lied. When I began a SAHM, he reverted to his past, and when the marriage crumbled, he ran to his family, who circled the wagons around him. His oldest brother claimed that my husband had failed to properly assert authority in our marriage and more. They ignored the rest, telling me that I had “one path,” back to my husband.
What a low view of men, unable to control themselves, and having to control everything in the family in order to be considered successful in the eyes of God.
Everyone I hang out with now views marriage as a partnership, period. And I have male friends. Of course, I have boundaries in my friendships, both male and female. Duh…
Also proof that your ex is an empty cipher– aka, what is known as “psychopathic” in popular culture– is the sudden ideological switcheroo.
I’ve spent years untangling the “cipher” skein because, like your lawyer, I just don’t understand how they think and that makes me feel precariously unprepared to see them coming and ward them off.
I do understand that people can change their minds according to new information though. I’ve pretty much been the same person since I was tot but I had to learn like everyone else that institutions and causes can be flawed because they’re made up of fallible humans. Consequently, I’ve mistakenly supported organizations, candidates or pundits that maybe later turned out to be corrupt or effed up and I’ve withdrawn my support. Nevertheless, the principles and beliefs I thought I was supporting never change.
Meanwhile I’ve seen several criminally violent or generally dangerous Cluster B types try on and drop various ideologies and religious beliefs and it might seem like a similar process of changing one’s mind according to new information. But the big difference is that their process of believing and then disavowing does not seem to be based on any definable principle at all. Furthermore, even if their support or disavowal in favor of some other ideology, group, belief (or Schmoopie) is obviously blowing with the wind and opportunistic in some way, many seem to fanatically invest in whatever direction they’re veering at any given moment (born again one day, total atheist the next, etc.). So I suspect people like that don’t necessarily know they’re lying and opportunistically giving lip service to something they don’t deeply believe in.
Instead, I think they approach God or ideology or politics (or “wuv” for that matter) very much the way they once groveled for amnesty from (mirrored) whatever dangerous role model they internalized from childhood. It’s basically like a toxic, purposeful and almost willful form of Stockholm syndrome/captor bonding where they can only find equilibrium if they attach themselves to someone or some group representing power.
These types seem to prefer cuddling up to dangerous and abusive power though not always. I’ve worked for legitimate advocacy organizations that still drew in the occasional disordered dabbler but, when it turned out that the organization wasn’t hierarchical or cult-like enough (meaning there was no promise of being able to rise in rank and eventually attain absolute and abusive power over others), the dabblers would suddenly “unbelieve” in the cause and disavow themselves.
When I worked for an eco-watchdog organization that was heavily targeted by corporate villains like Monsanto, these unstable types could be very handy traitors and turncoats because, one day, they’d be twu believers and the next they’d be taking favors or cash under the table from industry and talking to the press about how the watchdog organization or the entire eco movement was anti-science or corrupt, etc.
But only some of these types were conscious “moles” who knew all along they were going to infiltrate and betray. The rest were just disturbingly “changeable.” And I think they’re like this because, growing up, the only safe position to be in was in the good graces of the scariest monkey in the room. And all abusive scary monkeys demand absolute and fanatical loyalty. Until another even scarier monkey comes along and the ciphers switch allegiance.
So if the political zeitgeist makes it seem advantageous to sound all groovy and egalitarian (and simultaneously disadvantageous not to sound that way), the Cluster B ciphers will throw themselves into that ideology with real commitment. But if the ideological and political climate suddenly shift, so too will they.
There was a name for the political form of flip-flopping in the 1930s and 40s: the “God that failed transition” for people who rejected Marxism and veered in the opposite direction.The disenchantment was probably largely organic at the start because of the horrible news coming out about Stalinist purges and gulags. But with McCarthyism, the transition from radical left to radical right became a lot more opportunistic.
Most political analysts assume this switcheroo was conscious and cynical but a lot of abuse survivors can probably attest how abusive personalities have this bizarre ability to make themselves believe or “unbelieve” almost anything and also seem immune to recognizing what the pattern of behavior means– which is that there could never have been any “there” there to begin with if they’re able to flop around that radically.
This seems very relevant to chumps because it puts the ILYBINILWY or “I never really loved you” transition into perspective. Not to make a case for political sides but it’s kind of like how the spineless former lefties who testified against friends and colleagues for McCarthy’s HUAC to save themselves would often claim to have been “tricked” or “coerced” into going to Marxist meetings or signing petitions even when this wasn’t true. Some of them might have been straight up cowards but I think many were disordered ideological hermit crabs who just fully invest in every new allegiance and belief and pretend they never invested in the conflicting former belief.
The way you know these people never really believed in any principle and never really loved anyone or anything was that, push came to shove, they were willing to betray others, which is FWittery in a nutshell.
Anyway, untangle, untangle, blah blah. I probably sound like I’m overcomplicating everything. But I’m convinced that if it were better understood that many abusers aren’t consciously “faking” love or commitment but simply fanatically invested in something until suddenly they aren’t, it would help exonerate victims who fell for the act. It’s not always that victims “ignored red flags” but the fact that the best lies are ones that are believed by the liar and that abusive personalities are pathologically “changeable” and can radically invest in conflicting beliefs with little warning or logic.
I’m also interested in the reasons why abusive personalities choose partners with integrity. I assume that it’s because, after being repeatedly burned by their own kind and seeing how other abusive freaks often come to bad ends, they’re experimenting with a different direction and seeking safe harbor among the “squares” for a change.
Yes, the flip-flopping was very upsetting. I knew from some things that happened on the honeymoon that his faith was primarily a pattern and a practice, versus something he deeply felt.
Then there were other times (of course), that I realized that I was dealing with someone who truly didn’t value me as a separate individual. He had impossible expectations that he castigated me over, as if I would never be good enough, particularly as a mother. His mother, of course, was perfect, managing a bunch of kids while Dad was off preaching all over. His relationship with her was complex from what I knew, and a sibling of his told me that Dad’s absences affected him the most of all the kids. Both of them were gone by the time things began to fall apart.
As our marriage developed cracks, my husband used the threat of divorce repeatedly to keep me in line. Despite being from a “no divorce ever” family, he said he would do it if he wanted to, period. Later, when I was less emotional about it, I realized that was another sign that his faith didn’t extend into areas where he chose not to apply it. But every time we had a major disagreement, he wanted a divorce. I’d beg and plead, and he’d call it off.
I agree that ultimately, I believed a lie, but honestly, he was very, very good at it. He was also trained that way. Professionally, he was in what would be called “the clandestine service,” which itself encourages shape-shifting and living in lies. I watched him act that way in church, being the pious husband and father, and then being an utter horror at home.
After retiring, he took off twice, making the second time long-distance. My therapist’s theory was that my STBX felt too unmasked and decided to leave to control the narrative and reinvent himself into yet something else. By choosing another state and an area where he supposedly knew no one, he could change shapes yet again without prying eyes.
They may not be dirt common but I’ve known quite a few genuine male “allies,” including my dad which always makes the idea that it’s “man hating” to point out predatory and violent male behavior seem like total nonsense. My dad would probably even argue that it’s effectively “man-hating” to oppose feminism.
My dad would be considered a radical feminist even today because, long before Andrea Dworkin began agitating, he believed porn was a gateway to rape and domestic violence. He gave presentations for the NOW organization about misogynistic violence in school curriculum. A lot of it was pretty “SM” to be honest, like one primary reader he reviewed that featured the story of two boys playing pirate who kidnap a girl and tie her up.
As a “recovering Catholic,” this wasn’t about sin or religious concepts of women’s “purity” for my dad but just logical because porn is dehumanizing and the first step towards destroying another person is dehumanizing them. He also thought most men were missing the point that gender equality would benefit men more than anyone else. This is because his combat experience and growing up as a tough kid in urban gangland convinced him that there would be less war and less societal violence (which claims 8-fold more male victims than female) if women held equal power across all sectors of society.
He basically observed that it’s mostly boys being killed by domestic abuse, violent crime and war so that disempowering mothers weakens the main protection for children. Years later, there’s actual research backing up all my dad’s anecdotal impressions, including the fact that more egalitarian societies tend to be less violent and less warring. I don’t think the latter is based on women being always morally superior to men but that equality itself within any system or organization tends to promote more egalitarian types of both men and women and discourage domineering and self-serving behavior.
One day in the late 1970s my sister stunned our decidedly secular family by becoming an evangelical Christian. She married an absolutely wonderful man: a minister’s son whom we all love and who helps to temper her proselytizing at family gatherings. Robert is down-to-earth, curious about differing opinions, and still gets misty-eyed when recalling the spectacular desserts and side dishes all the church ladies prepared during his childhood.
My sister persuaded him to relocate to Colorado Springs and to get a job at Focus on the Family as a systems analyst. She also worked there processing the financial donations that were sent in, as well as the ones made by the many Christian families who visited FOTF for their summer vacation. Amusement park and playground for the kids, bookstore, gift shop, cafeteria — it was set up to draw people in.
My BIL took us on a tour of the facilities, and what I remember most is the over-the-top opulence. Marble and fine wood everywhere, Dr. Dobson’s private entrance to his private underground garage that his chauffeur delivered him to, conservatively-dressed families everywhere.
What tipped him over into leaving FOTF, though, is that they changed his name to ”Bobby” because they had too many “Roberts.”
Of course it was opulent. Like Gordon Gecko, evangelicals believe greed is good. They tell themselves Jesus approves.
Great closing line there.
Tell me your sister left all of this nonsense behind too?
Just weird. I knew people who made a “pilgrimage” to visit the headquarters. It was about a 5-6 hour drive from where I landed after college. At that point, I was busy working and attending graduate school, and I didn’t follow his work anymore, thankfully.
I was wondering when we might talk about this idiot here.
Specifically, after he basically declared himself free from sin (and the ability to commit same) I’ve been curious to see what would come out about him after his death. Given his own flippance about adultery (and the example about “Linda” there feels a little specific..), well, “you know.” I look forward to some Tuesday article here when people start coming forward. You can’t be that big of an asshole and somebody doesn’t have receipts.
(Insert “Jesus Cheaters Missed the Seventh Commandment” commentary here).
I cannot say he ever entered my reading list during my brief flirtation with the RIC (frankly if he did that would have pushed me even further into this direction.) I kind of file Dobson and his ilk into that group of fundamentalists that would have a lot more teeth if the Information Age didn’t start and people weren’t able to communicate freely and find their own clades of sanity. Probably why if I recall correctly he got really twitchy about this whole “internet” thing as a threat to family values. Or something.
I grew up in a household where Focus on the Family was read and got some of the indoctrination coming up (had a recent deep dive with my Reality Canary about their literature for teens-THAT was a hoot!) Fortunately a lot of it was taught under the guise of “take what you want and leave the rest” (as “barefoot and pregnant” was not de rigeur in the Washington household) and by the time I was deep into my teens it was all but abandoned. Which I am grateful for-the traditional gender roles and homophobia were definitely not compatible with the world I was going out into. “What do you mean they aren’t going to try and turn me gay after all?”
James Dobson is in the same sort of bandwidth that Middle School History Class was for me-later in life I did my own research and….yeah, a bunch of stuff got left out that is pretty horrifying. If nothing else, the lack of comprehension that you sort of need a two-income household anymore is pretty damning of the whole thing.
I feel bad for the people that cling to all of that…completely blind to a changed world.
I remember Dobson coming up in conversation during a lecture when I was in grad school. There was something about how he interviewed Charles Manson and got duped by the King of Dark Triad himself. My prof, who was a family therapist, also had to suppress a giggle talking about Focus on the Family and the family cases that he dealt with professionally, adding some anecdote about how Dobson had an absolute hellion of a kid that even the corporal punishment couldn’t break that doesn’t seem to get talked about.
I was wondering whether Dobson’s kids were as gung ho on corporal punishment as he was, so I googled it, and got a link to a reddit board where a person who had gone to college with Dobson’s son said he amassed seven times as many demerits as were allowed but that those in charge wouldn’t act because of whose son he was. So it seems your prof was correct.
Yes, James Dobson and Ted Bundy. Oh, my. What horrors.
Yes, I listened to his show faithfully when I was in college, trying to align my beliefs because I had been raised in a secular household. He did have some decent guests at times, but I realize now that his overall direction was so off base.
Later, even my father-in-law (a travelling preacher) had concerns. He felt like James Dobson was drawing people away from what really mattered.
Over time, I stopped listening to James Dobson. What he said about raising kids didn’t work for me. I had become a SAHM and found that having a schedule with happy times together made a huge difference in getting the wild preschoolers aligned. And discipline needed to be heart-focused.
Dad wasn’t around much and seemed to view the kids as interfering with what he wanted, so I managed by accepting largely solo parenting. Later, he told me that he felt supplanted by the kids and even mentioned, in anger, that he wished we had never had them. We had discussed having kids from the beginning, and I had largely given up my career for that purpose. Well, here we were.
Fast forward. My husband was an addict with significant mental health issues. My life became h*ll, and I told no one because I thought it was my job to manage it. Now I know it wasn’t. Then he retired and decided that sex was his new retirement hobby. He opened a secret sexual basement. We separated twice, and he went long-distance the second time. He told me that “if” he cheated, it would be my fault.
And people sent me James Dobson. I read everything people gave me and listened to all of the programs. I also met with a local Christian coach who specialized in troubled marriages, making extensive notes during our meetings and journaling every day. She didn’t push a decision at all, but gave me things to think about. I finished the series with her.
And at the one-year mark, I refused to reconcile. I threw out all of the Christian resources people had given me. And some months later, my husband said he wanted a divorce. I did too. It was a chaotic mess, just confirming that it had to come to an end. My attorney was nearly seventy and a devout man. He provided me with many insights into broken relationships and evil that were far more realistic than what I had previously heard. And he got it done for me.
If somebody just told me this guy wrote a book called “Dare to Discipline” with a follow up entitled: “Love must be tough”, I’d assume he was was an SDM aficionado!
I was a devotee of Focus on the Family and Dr Dobsons approach just shy of 40 years ago early in my marriage to Cheater. It was clear to me early on that Cheater was not enthusiastic about our marriage and I decided that big doses of Jesus would surely help. I listened to his radio show most days. I never heard the “beat your wife” stuff and I thought some spanking of little kids was ok then, but I have changed my mind on that one in my old age.
Back then, I saw hope in Dobson’s philosophies but I now think that it put too much of the responsibility for how things went onto my shoulders and (as a child of abuse) I accepted it too quickly.
I will even grant that Dobson initially seemed to have a noble intent but his worship of the family became an idol to him. Once an idol is made, it’s all downhill from there. He has a daughter who never married and if she followed her father’s dogma, it would mean that she and other non married people would never have sex in their entire lives and I cant imagine hoisting such an expectation on people. These days Im all-in with the whole LGBTQI+ people so Ive veered far from this philosophy.
One of the more ironic things about his opinions is that he was clearly antiCatholic but tried to hide it. Evangelicals are forever accusing Catholics of idolatry of images/statues. (If I worshipped a statue, I would know it and I dont.) So I walked into the foyer of Focus on the Family in Colorado Springs and what do I see but a HUGE statue of Dobsons father. All I could think was “So I have a statue of Jesus’ mother and that is idolatry but this is ok why?”
Unlike many, the clergy at my local Catholic Church encouraged me to take care of myself which clearly included leaving cheater.
More than anything, I feel bad for the young bride I was in my 20s who hoped and prayed for her marriage and listened to the radio show every day hoping for the next magic bullet that would make everything better but never did.
I have a local friend who is twice divorced and Catholic. Both of her exes were what my adult kids call “a dumpster fire.” And her priests were very much on her side. When she fled the second one while her STBX was at work, fearing for her life, her priest said he wished he could be there to help her pack, but he had a mandatory archdiocese meeting that he couldn’t get out of unless he was deathly ill. He had her call once she was in a safe place and kept in touch as she relocated.
Far more real in the scheme of things than some Protestants.
I am Catholic and after the first D-day when the RIC had schooled me not to tell anyone, I called my favorite priest. He wasn’t from my parish. He was an old friend of a friend who was a fellow alumni from my college. Anyway, he spent hours talking to me, letting me emotionally vomit, and he stated repeatedly that I needed to divorce klootzak. Klootzak was not marriage material and had tricked me into matrimony. My most steadfast supporters have been Catholic and have all harsh judgment for klootzak and do not associate with him. Catholics recently helped me move, gave me a new TV, and embraced DS10 at his school. I am kind of shocked by it but it has been wonderful having the support.
I can’t speak to James Dobson, but my wife made a show of calling Focus on the Family to “connect with God and save our family”.
I struggled with the idea that I might not be living up to my religion and called too. The counsellor I talked with was great. He helped me understand that repentance required honesty and change, which I hadn’t seen. He went the extra mile and helped me see that the gaslighting I was struggling with was cruel.
I was raised on James Dobson and have spent my entire adult life trying to heal from my religious upbringing, so I think I can explain how he thinks.
This is why he worked so hard to bring about an authoritarian Christian government. According to his worldview, a society in which humans are allowed to make decisions would have to be fundamentally depraved, because humans are fundamentally depraved.
And this is why children have to beaten into submission, because if you don’t try to break them when they’re young, they grow up to be (gasp) adults who think.
The idea of a wayward husband as a snotty toddler in need of a good beating makes me smile. But in case you were wondering, no, in Dobson’s world view, Linda can’t beat the tar out of her cheating husband. Her husband outranks her in the hierarchy, which makes him God to her. The violence can only go from the top to the bottom, never from the bottom up. Divorce is disobedient to God and therefore unthinkable.
I can read this stuff with a sort of campy pleasure now, but it really messed me up for a long time. This man’s death has taken a huge weight off of me.
Such a convenient doctrine for men, isn’t it?
“Divorce is disobedient to God and therefore unthinkable.”
James Dobson’s son got divorced, so I guess that didn’t really work in their family, did it? Rules for thee, but not for me me meeeeee !
Focus On Your Own Damn Family
Bill Gotthard as well. He’s disgraced but still around. He’s 90.
I went to both seminars. One of my ex’s brothers used his illustrations, particularly “the umbrella,” as did one of the elders in my former church. Someone gave me his “Rebuilder’s Guide” when my ex left. He told the story of a wayward wife where the husband (or maybe ex) babysat the kids while she went out on dates. And eventually she came around, and they remarried. Boy, did that make me mad. He was being used. What made them really think that the marriage was “all better”? How was that for the kids?
My ex and his family very much viewed me as the “wayward one,” completely ignoring all of my ex’s disordered thinking, pill addiction, and the rest. Very much a “no divorce ever” family, agreeing with Gothard on that.
Just garbage.
Deciding to be a Lightening rod here but not all of Dobsons advice was off. He was a man of his times and did a great deal of good for families regardless of the historical “looking back now… harm”. It’s like blaming my parents for not putting me in a seat belt in the 60s or letting me drink from the garden hose or a million other things that we know is harmful NOW. 3 years ago I called Focus on the Family for their FREE one hour counseling session offered. It was the same free counseling I had used 38 years before with cheater #1. Both times the advice was for my safety alone, not to restore my marriage. This last time I called in 2022 I got a counselor named Jack. I told him what my husband was doing and what he was telling me behind closed doors. Do you know what Jack from Focus on the Family told me for free? He told me my husband was FULL OF BULLSHIT and I needed to break out of my prison. That he was sick sick sick and I needed to get out.! Let’s give Dr Dobson and all he did positive a break for showing us what mistakes were made in the past and use that as a stepping stone into the future. Dr Dobson was in his 90s when he died and as i said, he simply reflected his times. Woman did not have any power without a man in the 60s, 70, 80s. Now thanks to many forces there is more hope. I am grateful for the life he lived that taught me what did not and does not work today and how hurtful those years were for all woman. Only in looking back can we move forward. I am grateful to CL and CN for opening the dialog and showing us the way ahead.
I’m truly glad you got good advice there.
I did enjoy some of his guests when I was listening. He had quite a variety, and I believe that I did benefit at times.
You are very right that he stepped into a time where people were hungry for information that he provided. If he had started his ministry now instead of then, the effect would have been different.
I am happy that they helped you. I throw no stones at you for seeing the good of what they did for you.
That is very gracious of you unicornnomore, especially here. And though I definitely fit this narrative, I wish that there was a site like this for people of faith with sensitive ears,where they can hear the truth and see the blue print of deception from a cheaters play book. They or we deserve the truth too!! I almost did not go further with Tracy’s blog because of the colorful language she uses. Yes i did share my feelings and Tracy understood but that is her trade mark and it works.Ive only heard those words in Spanish so not easy on the ears. But the truth is a pearl of great price and I only wish for a translation for those who are more touchy. I don’t agree with talking about the dead who did only what they understood from their era. But I get it. Thank you for your understanding on this site. I realize how sensitive it is because 2x cheated on I was blind but now I see.
I joke that when my spouse left earth, he left all his bad words with me…when he died, I started swearing “like a sailor” as we say in our culture for someone with a harsh vocabulary. It became part of me but I can see that not everyone feels release and freedom in it.
The worst of my abuse from someone who presented himself as a Catholic husband and father was 20 years ago. Im hoping that there are more resources for faithful people who are experiencing betrayal and better advice is given to people who are hurting. I anonymously wrote a guest column for a Catholic writer where I spoke of the emotional and spiritual abuse and begged people to never claim there was a method to affair-proof marriage – we simply dont control other people – even ones we think we have influence over.
Unicorr-nomore! You reminded me of all yes almost 100 % of books written about woman /men, affairs, sex addiction, porn addiction brought the reader to the doors of..YES YOU CAN CURE THIS. Remember Fascinating womanhood and a million other books for women. Affair proof your marriage yes all of them that I read were Similar to James Dobsons ideas. We have to stop and think of it. Even AA even though we can’t cure alcoholics, alot of AA books included the partner making themselves better to help motivate the drunk to change. It was endemic all over the world. We are changing that narrative but just can’t condemn anyone to hell for their beliefs that fit the times they lived in. We have a long way to go but we are making a difference.
I dont hope for my Cheater to be in Hell so I surely dont wish Dr Dobson to be there either. I think Dr D meant well to start with, but if you make an idol of something, you will go in the wrong direction.
How about The Power of a Praying Wife…yea, the conventional wisdom was that we could fix them. Perhaps that is the benefit of my wisdom now…I finally admitted that I could never have fixed him. Yes, we as a society are getting smarter to know when to quit trying to fix people.
Unicornnomore- it is my belief that prayer changes me,which in turn shifts others ..in or out of my sphere. As I got stronger from the inside out, I could say No to what was hurting me as a loving human being. I saw prayer does not change a hard heart that is unwilling …but it changes my weak heart to be respectful of myself. The idea that you stay and pray might be what others needed but it could not be my answer to abuse of my precious self. Once I saw my value my “No and no more’ took on a life and saved me. Sometimes I am standing in the way of someone else’s disease and my stepping far away could lead to their saving. I am not the only one and thinking I am is limiting God. I realize this may not be the site for my story but leaving a cheater was my answer and so far neither cheater loves or cares what happens to me. A harsh lesdon to learn so late in life. I didn’t matter except in my own mind.They have quickly moved on and never ever loved me. Praying from far away is a beautiful thing. It changed me
2xc, that is a beautiful description of the role of prayer and God in your life and I agree with it. I prayed a LOT during that time and it kept me breathing one moment to the next. Your example of faith in chaos really is lovely.
I surely don’t belittle prayer, I belittle the folks who advise that we have the capability of turning our spouse into a loving person with prayer and they have a book or program to sell detailing how to make that happen. Even God wont take away someone’s free will. So, yes,,,exactly, in most cases, prayer can give you strength to see the truth and refuse to stay in abuse.
“Linda’s only response was hand wringing and verbal abuse. That form of reproof is about as effective with a wayward spouse as it is with a disobedient toddler: he doesn’t even hear it! “
Hey Linda have you tried beating the shit out of him? He’ll learn to behave.
If pain is such a great purifier, Linda could have just beaten the sin out of her fuckwit to save her marriage. Yet even “nagging” was too punitive for Dobson. You know you’re dealing with a moron who doesn’t know what he’s talking about about when there are glaring contradictions like that.
Plus, he hit children and dogs! 🤬I’d have liked to purify him with some pain. The world is a better place without his kind in it and hopefully his family aren’t grieving the monster. I wouldn’t grieve an abusive father who beat my dog, which to me would be even worse than being beaten myself. The ultimate act of sadism against a child is to harm a beloved pet. It’s psychopathic behavior.
With a belt! He beat a dachsund with a belt!
He was such a horrible person. Beating and torturing dogs–and proud of that. Also beating small children. You know how they say only say good things about the dead? He’s dead. Good.
ETA, also he was a homophobic monster, who made a main part of his life and message destroying rights and decent treatment for LGBTQ people.
Boy, it’s been a while! I’ve gotten super busy with life – sorry – but when I saw this in my in my inbox I had to reply. I grew up with my mom having me listen to him on Focus on the Family and read his books (Love Must Be Tough NOT included). I didn’t know ANY of this stuff. His opinions on equal rights aren’t… surprising, unfortunately, but his opinions on cheating and wifebeating are. I don’t know what to say. It’s just all so… exhausting. It’s always the victims’ fault, isn’t it?
My parents were not perfect, but they didn’t indoctrinate me with this kind of cr*p.
Consider that a blessing. My mother would never want me to be cheated on or abused and would absolutely tell me to leave in those scenarios, but that contrasts with her giving me a book when I was 18 about how to be a properly submissive wife (it was called Lady-Like, I think?). I love her dearly, but woof.
As I said, though, I was given Love and Respect to read as a kid, not Love Must Be Tough. My mother also constantly touts Cloud and Townsend’s Boundaries series as a must read, so she understands that side of it too. She also took me back in when I needed to leave Lizard. She does want me to be in a safe relationship where I’m loved and appreciated, you know?
Ahhh yes. My fundamentalist father gifted me the book love must be tough when I was with a FW as a teenager. I believe his intent was to get me to now “get tougher” even after the church and patriarchy within the home had taught me to serve without boundaries to have worth. No surprise, I got rid of that FW and married a worse one. James Dobson created a lot of damage.
I knew he was bad, but I didn’t know he was THAT bad. Advocating beating women and children!
Good riddance! The planet is now a better place.
Unfortunately his ideas live on in his many books and other media, and the powerfully influential Focus on the Family (in Christian circles).
I don’t trust anyone who advocates hitting, especially anyone who advocates hitting children.
The best and simplest piece of advice on infidelity?
A person who is right for you and good for you makes your life BETTER and brings you PEACE.
People who cheat bring neither of those things to your life. They don’t even bring those things to their relationship with the cheating accomplice.
Leave the sh*t disturbers and mind f**kers to each other.
Hold out for people who make your life BETTER and bring you PEACE.
❤️