UBT: David Harbour’s Non-Apology Apology
David Harbour offers a non-apology apology for cheating on Lily Allen, as told to Esquire Spain magazine. Hey, life is all a wonderful tapestry of whatever. Interpret meaning as you will.
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Non-apology apologies are something of a staple energy source for the Universal Bullshit Translator. When called upon for some gesture of accountability, cheaters usually toss some word salad at their audience. The audience receives it in gratitude. At last! The Great One has spoken! And EXPLAINED! The beauty of word salad is, it can be anything you want it to be. Sorry? Sure. I also see regret, constipation, and the profile of Teddy Roosevelt. It’s all in how you look at it.
Which brings us to today’s Faux Remorse FW in the News Cycle.
David Harbour has a kinda sorta apology.
Is he sorry for cheating on his wife Lily Allen? The important take away is that mistakes were made, but not really. Because mistakes are all part of the beautiful tapestry of entitlement that makes fuckwits FWs.
Cosmopolitan magazine reports:
Now, David appears to have broken his silence on the subject of their break up, reflecting on his “pain, slip-ups, and mistakes.” While speaking with Esquire Spain in an interview published yesterday, but notably conducted in September, before Lily’s album release, David was asked if there was anything he would change about his life.
Zooming in on the “question of regret,” the 50-year-old admitted that he would change “either everything or nothing.”
Look, if I could change everything I would. I’d reincarnate as a pectoral sandpiper, a bonobo monkey, or an elephant seal. Creatures whose entire life’s purpose is to shag and acquire harems. Currently, however, I have to pause for film roles and voice over work.
Life is binary. You either change EVERYTHING. Your very molecular structure! Or nothing. No need for discomfort or personal growth. As you were! #TeamNothing
Accept your path.
He added: “You either accept your path completely and realize that even the pain and the slip-ups and the mistakes are all part of the journey, and that there’s truth and growth, wisdom and deeper empathy and connection in all that.”
I accept me. I like me.
Pain, slip-ups and mistakes are all part of the journey. It’s not as if you make choices. Ooh, here we’re coming upon the Dark Slip-Up Forest. Venture forward! I wonder what we’ll encounter next? Is that Pain lurking in the bushes? Let’s follow the Yellow Brick Road to find truth and growth. And the wizard will give us empathy!
David then described his life as “like a house of cards.” He said that the “minute you try to change one thing, you kind of have to change it all.”
I could try and change, but what’s the point? I’m not an elephant seal. I’m a horny, unethical man who speaks in riddles.
Speaking about his career as an actor, David said his purpose is to incorporate his life into “something that [he] can give to other people so that they can have a cathartic response to their lives.
Lily, I hope my dick wandering has given you a cathartic response to life.
I wasn’t cheating on you, I was giving to other people. And lying about it. What matters is my charity.
“If you’ve never been through anything, what do you really have to offer?” he asked.
My fuckwittery makes me more valuable, not less. I have THINGS TO OFFER! Cognitive dissonance. Syphilis. What do you have? You’ve never been through anything. Heck, if you’re not putting people through things, are you really even living?
Exactly.



As sorry as I feel for Lily, when I saw her strutting at some event in what appeared to be a bra and slip, my sympathy waned for her just a titch. If this is how she counters her grief by appearing in public in her underwear I sort of say they deserve each other, cheating or no cheating. Take a page out of Tiger Woods wife response, vent your anger (golf club) and then walk away with dignity. But walking around like a porn star doesn’t do it for me. Have some class.
David looks like a hairy ingrown toenail, whatever he wears, yet somehow Lily managed not to cheat.
Remember when Princess Diana wore her iconic revenge dress in 1994 and the public lauded her for taking the spotlight back from her cheater? How she was embraced for being daring and controlling the narrative? People still talk about it thirty years later.
It’s a very human thing to act out when hurt, when shamed publicly, but it’s Lily’s job to be provocative.
If you need to clutch your pearls in judgement, I suggest you do it against the abuser, not the chump.
I’m not sure who these people are (I thought Lily Allen was a British comedian??).. but anyway, I tend to agree in the sense that some clothing choices may not be the wisest, if you are not wanting unwanted attention. HoaC seemed to discern what worked best in NYC. The point of clothing (incl lingerie) designed to be seductive, provocative etc is because it sets of hormonal and physiological changes in the observer.
This doesn’t justify abuse of course. But… we shouldn’t be ignorant of the effect seductive type clothing either though should we? Like 2xChump said below, her hubby couldn’t concentrate on the sermon. So regardless of our INTENTION for wearing what we choose, the effect of that clothing may be unintended.
Ouch! I agree with Hell of a Chump and will add – “stop telling women how to dress and start teaching men not to abuse”
Ok now I feel bad I called the selfie by one of Harbour’s purported OWs thirsty and lame. That was harsh. Truth is, it’s kind of a vulnerable and lonely and validation-seeking thing to do. But I was not slut-shaming her.
It’s Lily’s JOB to dress that way, hello! And she looks amazing.
Here’s a shaggy dog story about why I wear mini skirts, groovy boots and lipstick but am not actually a “ho-bag” lol.
I was always a huge schmuck magnet, especially in my teens and twenties. I got street-harassed everywhere– often in a cruel and aggressive way– by both men and women. But my attempts to use protective coloring such as nerdy, boring or gender-neutral garb like oversized t’s, button downs, hoodies and trainers and no makeup never helped and almost seemed to make it worse, even dangerous.
Then one day my brilliant, funny, thoughtful mother had a philosophical revelation and recommended a way to stop it. She said that, back when she was a young professional in NYC, she figured out that, when men harass women on the street, their aggression isn’t really aimed at the women themselves but at the men who presumably “own” these women. I ran my mother’s brainstorm past a fashion model friend and she resoundingly agreed, saying, “Never look like you need anything from anyone! It’s like a kick-me sign on your back!” and “Predators love vulnerability.”
But I think my mother’s take was even more to the point. At least when it comes to male sexual aggression, basically the point of screaming sexual comments/slurs at random women or sexually intimidating/dissing them isn’t primarily to intimidate the individual woman but so that she’ll run home to her daddy/boyfriend/husband-owner and cry about what those bad men did or said. Then the “owner” will feel violated and have an ineffectual, helpless meltdown over it. Which– yay– provides a sense of victory and satisfaction to damaged men who mortally hate their own fathers.
To misogynist men, women barely count as human and are seen mostly as footballs in the endless rivalry with other men. But when it comes to female aggression, I think it’s more about finding fellow female scapegoats for all the hurt, fear, betrayal and anger caused by “dah patriarchy.” But women tend to be highly concerned with social power and will only openly verbally attack perceived “rivals” who can’t bite back in a social status sense. So looking “socially connected/statusy” can sometimes deter more open expressions of mean girl sh*t.
So my mother said I should dress like my “owner” has the power and wealth to either get the offenders fired or assassinated or ousted from the social fold.
I tried out different styles over time that I could scrape together with some fashion training on a budget: “lady DA,” “Hamptons yogazilla,” “preppy downtown princess,” “grunge jetsetter.” But eventually I figured out that cosplaying as “tasteful rock star wife” had the best effect. So lots of legs and lips but natural hair and no visible cleavage (oh dear, too “slutty”) became the standard armor.
It probably helps that I’m good at finding couture on a budget to get that “stealth wealth” look but I have no idea why this presentation works, only that it does. Presenting this way seems to cause “hushed deference” which sure beats constant negging, especially when I became a “disability mom” and had to advocate for a child with severe health issues and learning and behavioral challenges. That’s actually when appearance and perception became life and death because my child was being mistreated, deprived and excluded proportionate to social perceptions of my relative powerlessness as a mother. So I don’t really “dress to impress” as much as to intimidate (but, bonus, actually nice women aren’t put off and just want to know where I got that cool skirt).
I know that’s a pretty depressing commentary on our species. Anyway, like you, I tend to take a pragmatic view of why women dress and present in certain ways. It can sometimes reflect on character but doesn’t always. To me, it’s all battle dress because there’s a bloody war out there.
Love all of this! I am going to dress like a tasteful rock star wife! Hm who best embodies that vibe…??
I’m not a fan or heroin chic or the Nascar groupie fashions that seem to dominate the scene now so I have no specific current example. But as a student I used to see Iman and Bianca Jagger trying to go incognito in NY but still always a little camera ready in case of paparazzi attack. Call it “lawyers on retainer weekend casual” lol.
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Got it 👍
I hang out shooting the breeze with local landscapers and mechanics so I think the swank effect is only intimidating where it really needs to be haha.
I think one of the hardest things to cope with post betrayal, was other people’s opinions of how I responded/dealt with my ex’s betrayal. I would have loved to behave classily, but I was walking (sometimes crawling) wounded. An abandoned, frightened child. There’s no shame in my game now though. I did what I needed to do to survive.
Sorry I have to do some ethical parsing here. I’m finding this kind of victim blaming. It’s not just that modern recording artists aren’t really “people” but corporations with boards that make decisions about what they say, do, sing, wear, etc. The removal of one piece of clothing could increase the “board’s” profits by millions and extend the artist’s career by years. But there’s also the fact that she could walk around naked and there would still be no excuse to abuse her, at least from the perspective that cheating is abuse.
The one part of this story that seems more ironic than tragic is that Allen herself apparently cheated on a past relationship. But that still doesn’t remove a micron of responsibility from what Harbour did the same way violent prison guards are still criminal even if they’re torturing murderers on death row.
Obviously all cheating is bad. But Lily Allen (according to her own account) cheated after a string of traumatic events sent her nearly insane and addicted to drugs and alcohol – these included a still born baby when she was age 24 in the glare of British tabloid insanity, two children back to back one very ill, losing her house and then having to go on tour alone to make enough money to support the family. She was also honest with her ex husband, gave him an equitable divorce and took responsibility. David Harbour on the other hand appears to have never actually been invested in the marriage from day dot and just found someone with serious attachment issues and vulnerabilities to exploit – not really realising she is also brilliant and candid to the point of self harm.
Hypersexuality is a common response to sexual abuse trauma. I had it . There’s a new novel called She Used To Be Nice that focuses a bit on it.
Hypersexuality as a response, applies to men who suffer from sexual trauma as well?
Definitely. I know many gay men in particular who’ve gone through it. There is information out there if you’re inclined to learn more about,
thank for this, i was not aware of this. i now understand myself better.
It’s real. Very common. I was also happy to hear I wasn’t crazy and bad, but having a very common response to sexual trauma.
Immediately after being told I was being left because I was a bad wife, I had a (3-4 month) intense internal bout of hyper sexuality in the form of heightened libido the likes of which I never experienced before or since…it was frightening in its intensity.
It was by the Grace of God that I didnt make any terrible decisions or act-out. At its worst, it manifested as a horizontal Pick Me Dance towards Cheater (which is a truly bad idea but generally not disastrous). At about the same time, I was briefly pursued by a person who had a crush on me and if I had allowed myself to walk that ill-advised path, the outcome would have been absolute social, professional, spiritual and personal disaster and humiliation.
It was a long time before I learned that the intense libido was likely a trauma response and Im so thankful that I didnt mistake the interest from the inappropriate person as a deserved-solace of any sort. (Life eventually got much better but in the right way in the right time).
Lily didnt hurt anyone walking around in her underwear and I hope that is the worst she will have to deal with right now.
(I hate even telling this story, but if I help prevent disaster for one chump, its worth it)
If we don’t share it we feel shame. I Hank you for sharing. I had a terrible case of it. I’m 4 years free of it.
Personally I chalk it up to dumb monkey evolution that people tend to get especially horny while breaking up.
Basically the ancient humans who responded to romantic trauma philosophically by taking a break from sex and breeding didn’t propagate as much as those who responded to heartbreak by frantically getting back on the horse.
The beauty of word salad is, it can be anything you want it to be. Sorry? Sure. I also see regret, constipation, and the profile of Teddy Roosevelt. It’s all in how you look at it.
So, so funny. The UBT always makes my day.
More from the interview:
David revealed that the focus for his next 50 years of life is to create “more stories that are complex and rich and make you feel all the feelings and lift you up.
“Then of course there’s personal stuff that I want to do, and people that I want to love, and be good to and nurture, things like that,” he concluded.
“Things like that” apparently does not include integrity, and people he wants to be good to and nurture apparently does not include his wife.
As a side note, I was interested to read that Lily and David met on the celebrity dating app Raya. That may explain some of the weirdly mismatched celebrity couples we see.
The Roosevelt quip is sheer genius.
Wait, are their dating apps for everything these days? Mensa members? Cat burglars?
Gotta love these Schrodinger’s sociopaths. You can never guess if their consciences are dead or alive… or both at the same time!
Like, is the rambling defensiveness a way of beating back vestigial guilt? Or is it just hollow PR to reduce the social stigma of their offenses so they don’t get canceled and can still get laid? Or bits of both?
Anyway, I find these weirdos fascinating but probably not in the way they’d prefer. I just want to pin them to foam boards like insect specimens and pick them apart for posterity.
I was offering PLENTY to my partner, family and friends and it didn’t require me to betray, lie, gaslight and abuse my wife and family. Champion FW bullshit.
I found out (late) that Lily Allen is / was also a cheater. While she was married, she says: ““I slept with female prostitutes when I was on tour because I was lost and lonely and looking for something. I’m not proud, but I’m not ashamed.”
I mean … people like her, and her STBX, have endless justifications side-by-side with self-pity. A decent person can only do one thing — steer clear.
Her book also presents the cheating as one of a number of out of control behaviours such as drinking, drugs etc she adopted in repose to serious trauma in the guise of fame itself and then a still born baby and two more kids (one v sick) back to back in under 2 1/2 years – followed by losing her house, leaving her baby’s to go on tour to pay off debts and all the while being stalked (the guy eventually broke into her house after she was split from her ex and stood over her with a knife, while her kids slept in the next room). So I think though of course her husband from the first marriage was correct to divorce her, there were also a lot of mitigating circumstances around the cheating. It sort of makes it even more deplorable to me that knowing her vulnerability and publicly expressed need for calm and stability in the wake of all that David Harbour married her, moved her and the kids to NY and then just contained fucking whoever he felt like
Fucking anyway. Wild behaviour from him.
I thought they had an agreement that as long as it was a sex worker, sex with someone was allowed, NOT a connection/relationship. Sounds like a minefield to me, but if there was agreement, that’s different from cheating. Not sure, but that was what I’d understood.
I’m talking about her first husband, not David Harbour. She put that quote in her 2018 autobiography, regarding her first marriage.
I think that is important to know, the info about Lily and her first marriage, but also what is most important imo is what agreement did her and David had, her current husband (now ex or stbx?). She indicated that she didn’t want the open relationship and that he pressured her into it. So they made the agreement to allow sex, but no attachment/relationship aspect. So if she stuck to that and he didn’t, well then, I can see why she felt betrayed. That is cheating, breaking an agreement…whatever you want to call it.
Not everyone is a once a cheater always a cheater. If they do that once and are truly remorseful, learn from that and grow as a person and never repeat that behavior again, then it should not be held against them to the same degree that people who continue to just repeat that behavior over and over. If someone cheats once and then does it again (and maybe even repeatedly) then yeah, once a cheater always a cheater, shitty person without integrity, morals, empathy, etc. They have proven it’s a pattern of behavior for them and they are unwilling to change and don’t give a shit who they hurt along the way.
I always bear in mind that battered/coercively controlled women have a slightly increased statistical tendency to “monkey branch” if just to have a body guard on hand while they escape dangerous circumstances. In other words, there’s this very slim exception where cheating might not necessarily reflect on someone’s ethical character but arose from life and death circumstances.
I know it muddies the water that every domestic abuser pretends to be victim to their own victims. But I do think there are situations that drive people to do desperate, out-of-character things and DV/coercive control is definitely one of them.
Maybe that applies to Lily Allen’s first marriage, maybe it doesn’t. Either way, what Harbour did by breaking an agreement was abuse for the same reason I gave before– that violent prison guards are still criminal even if they “only” torture death row serial killers.
Oh wow! It’s amazing the ability cheaters have to reimagine the truth! I’m so disappointed. I feel chumped by Lily now! 😂
I don’t know who this person is. Other than he appears to pretend for a living. No matter though since they’re all some degree of faking their way through our real lives as proven by this statement:
“David then described his life as “like a house of cards.”
No, it wasn’t “like” it most certainly was a “house of cards.” Each card representing a lie or misdirection carefully placed with the intention to manipulate. He comes off as being proud to be an actor on the stage of his own life. How sad.
I have some acting experience. There’s this false notion that some actors and acting coaches have that you can use life experiences to draw on to inform your acting. Of course, this ignores the fact that all acting is playing pretend. An actor could just choose to IMAGINE using a veneer of faux empathy to cover up their pure narcissism. They don’t actually have to go out and cheat. Think about it. How many actors actually serve on police forces before playing a detective? How many actually go to war before fighting the bad guys? How many actually successfully charm Penelope Cruz into a threesome, instead of just following the script? It’s all imagination! I hate these kind of actors like Harbour who turn every one of life’s tragedies into a piece of their work product. I pray only that HE gets cheated on next. Maybe he can use that for some material too. What a jackass.
Hah, good points. I worked in the “biz” and always thought it was bogus when actors argued that, say, developing a cocaine addiction or going to prostitutes was legitimate prep to play scumbag roles.
It’s not like Ralph Fiennes went out and shot helpless Jewish stable boys to prepare for his Oscar-winning performance as the psycho camp commander in Schindler’s List. And, while Daniel Day Lewis did actually study with butchers and circus performers to play the knife-wielding role in Gangs of New York, I don’t think he ever actually stabbed anyone.
Ahh, the black and white, binary thinking of the personality disorder. “The only thing in the world that gets to be complicated is me. Everything else is in two broadly defined categories that I determine once and then you never leave it. B-T-Dubs, you will never be in the favorable category”
So majestic in nature!
I enjoy how the whole thing is couched as “the breakup”. Not “hey Stranger Things, you somehow betrayed somebody in something called an open relationship. What’s that like?” They probably soft balled him because he’s making money right now. He’ll be in a few movies before Big Hollywood forgets him and he’s selling selfies at comic book conventions.
If we are going by the model of “integrating his lived experience into his roles”, all of that Netflix and MCU money comes from playing “the very capable but still sort of dumb fuck-up.” Kind of tracks. Enjoy your typecasting!
Stay Mighty to the rest of you!
One day my( unknown to me )cheating spouse was singing🎶 next to me in church. He leans over and says to me..why do your friends and all these other women dress so loosely in church? It looks to me like they are needy and and asking FOR IT.He went on to say, he could not concentrate on the sermon while trying to avoid peering at breasts and thighs. Do you know I TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO HIM??The WHY of womans clothing?? Which shows you I had my own work to do in translating a creepers mind into something He / I could even understand. REALLY??? Indeed I do wish woman would not dress in cut offs to sing on the praise team but men are wearing shorts, tight jeans, bangles and enough cologne to choke a choir..also they are oogling woman other than their wives and Blaming woman…okay….?
I laughed so hard with CLs description of Not an apology. This is the blue print Chumps!!!. Read it and know your cheaters is USING YOU and manipulating you just like I was in the pew explaining to a cheater how to calm his power tool down..Yes I’m getting help NOW! Really.
My ex apologized with the understatement of the year, “I botched up.” That was it.
The word salad isn’t any better, and reportedly, my ex had a long list of reasons why the marriage ended that didn’t include his misbehaviors. It’s all false narrative, period.
I’m so glad that the marriage police and ugly naysayers are no longer in my inner circle.