8 Ways to Cope When the Jerks Win

the bastards win

This is my pep talk about what to do when the jerks win. How do you eat the shit sandwich of injustice and keep going?

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Ostensibly, this is a blog about infidelity, but really it’s a gazillion curated stories of overcoming adversity. Cheaters just happen to be the obstacle of choice here. Lest you think I’m talking about the current political moment, you can apply the following hard-won wisdom to any set of oppressive fuckwits.

I’m not telling you I’ve arrived. Like I’m a Zen master at choking down shit sandwiches. But chumpdom is a great teacher. When your world has bottomed out a few times, you learn how to build new worlds. Yes, even when your ex faces zero consequences, swans off into a new life with Schmoopie and stiffs you with the check.

Here’s what I’ve learned about coping when jerks win:

Don’t let them steal your joy.

Fuckwits might steal your wedding china, your spouse, or your 401K, but they cannot take everything. There are still Mozart choral masses, carbohydrates and golden retrievers.

Shut up, Tracy. Embroider it on a pillow. I have no time for your Pollyanna shit. THE WORLD IS ENDING.

It might be. So, pack as many almond croissants and belly rubs as you can into it. FWs would love nothing more than to avoid competition with choral masses and be the only thing streaming in your head. Deny them.

Focus on what you do control.

One of my favorite quotes from the painter Alice Neel is:

“The minute I sat in front of a canvas I was happy. Because it was a world, and I could do what I liked in it.

Alice Neel

Find your canvas. Figure out the places where you have agency. When things are grim, the only place might be the inside of your mind, or what you write, paint, or create. Today you may only control your haircut, or if you took a shower. Take solace in those acts. Keep adding spheres of influence where you feel safer and saner.

We can’t control everything, and we certainly can’t control FWs. That anxiety can make anyone stress sick. Figure out what you can let go of, what you can escape temporarily, and what you must hunker down and fight for.

Remember you always have choices — those choices might suck (choices often do), but you are the decider.

Find community.

You aren’t alone. As humans we haven’t felt anything that a bazillion humans haven’t felt before us. So read history. Read memoirs. Talk to your elders. Figure out how they survived this shit. Surround yourself with people who support you and aren’t afraid to walk into your cracked open heart. Avoid the rubberneckers and assholes who get a contact high off your grief.

The gift of chumpdom is discernment. I don’t let just anyone in my life anymore.

Snark is healing.

If in the darkest time you can find the absurdity in a situation — you still have your soul. Humor is dissonance — the ridiculous as contrasted with the norm. The true north. That’s why comedy duos have straight men. Because there’s no outrageousness without a foil.

Let’s say I’m telling a joke about your FW who doesn’t pay child support and the punch line is “And then he bought Schmoopie a new set of boobs!” The gallows humor here is that REAL parents pay for their children, not silicon boobs. We KNOW what true North is (supporting your children) and why not doing that is outrageous.

When you stop being outraged, and stop seeing the absurdity, you’re dead. Your values have been corrupted into a world where such entitlement is natural. KEEP LAUGHING AT THIS CRAP. Snark is your safety valve, but it also underscores the fact that you have a moral compass. This is crazy, right?

And never punch down. Vulnerable people aren’t the butt of jokes. Aim your barbs at fatuous FWs. Use your powers of snark for good, never evil.

Keep showing up.

I know. Fuckwits are exhausting. They will drive you in circles with their chaos. I’m tired just typing this. But listen to me — showing up pays dividends. Children know who showed up and who didn’t. There’s no intimacy and no investment without showing up.

And, let’s face it, showing up is mostly a grind. It’s doing all the adult, non-sparkly things, like booking the dental visits, or cleaning up vomit, or listening to teenagers whinge about writing their college essays. AND IT MATTERS. This is the work of building solid citizens and ethical human beings.

Any fool can buy a shiny toy. Real people give their time.

Keep fighting.

FWs excel at chaos because they excel at nihilism. When you don’t care — and I mean really do not give a shit about anyone but your grubby little urges — life is easy. No conscience to trip you up, no hurt feelings to navigate around, no inclination to clean up messes. Not caring is the FW superpower.

But they DO care how they are perceived. So, keep snarking and keep holding jerks accountable. They won’t act out of conscience and the greater good, but because the more people who believe their Good Guy schtick, the more people they can manipulate.

So, be clear what good guys look like and how they fall short of the mark. Don’t bow down. Don’t be their PR agents. Don’t confer friendship. If good will is on the table, it must be earned through actions (like “pay child support” above).

I once had the great privilege of interviewing South African hero Albie Sachs. During apartheid, in exile, he helped draft a new democratic constitution BEFORE South Africa had a democracy. He said, the thing about being in exile (and never knowing if you would ever get power) is that it forced him to be creative. People in power, he said, tend to be lazy. Power narrows their perspective, and makes them comfortable. Resistance, on the other hand, adapts. It’s innovative. Sachs was able to crib the best parts of other constitutions because he lived in so many other democratic countries while in exile. Thus, his disadvantage, became an advantage.

So outfox FWs. Get creative. Plan for the day you’re free. FWs never expect it, because they underestimate you.

They’re still them.

This is the least satisfying answer. Yes, they are THEM. The jerks who won the pick me dance. Who left the arena with all the cash and prizes and zero accountability.

You’re going to have to take a spiritual view on this. They’re still chaos monsters. Still shallow as a puddle of piss. Still moving the goalposts on happiness and finding fault with everyone around them. Do you really want that in your life? Do you really miss that shit, or just the illusion and trappings that went with it?

FWs don’t have the raw materials to love deeply. The shadow side of intimacy is vulnerability. FWs don’t do intimacy, they do transactions — a zero sum game of getting over on a chump. So, move along. Unless you want to be of use and spit out.

Things might endure with Schmoopie. Because they probably have a higher tolerance for bullshit than you’ve got.

You’re still you.

Also, an unsatisfactory answer. What do you stand for? There’s nothing like a crisis to clarify your values. Do you believe in honesty? Fidelity? Commitment? Kindness? Reciprocity? Treating people the way you’d want to be treated?

Know who you are. And if you’re going to fight the bastards, innovate. And break occasionally for joy.

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FuckWitFree
FuckWitFree
10 months ago

These are definitely higher level thinking skills completely lost on fuckwits of all flavors. Keeping these up while still dealing with them and being collectively treated as second class (misogyny and other abuses) is another matter. We are in for a rough ride.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
10 months ago
Reply to  Tracy Schorn

Speaking of micro and macro, recently I’ve been trying to wrap my head around Australian sociologist Raewyn Connell’s controversial theory of “hegemonic masculinity” which she (I think) presents as the core of overall hegemony though this is propped up by something she calls the “linchpin of legitimation” which is in turn supported by various categories of “femininities”– in short, the patriarchal pickme-dancers.
I’m on my second pot of coffee and a dose of Advil and I still don’t quite get what Connell means by “legitimation” (propagandistic cultural lore?). I find Connell’s idea of a hierarchy of different types of “masculinities” within gender-unequal hegemonic systems very interesting– the idea that there are only a few top dog dude slots while the rest of men are eating varying grades of shit sandwiches below whether they recognize it or not (or just blame minorities and immigrants for it as they’re directed to do). She also makes a hopeful argument that there are different types of “femininities,” which, like alternative types of masculinities, can sometimes rebel and work against hegemony and represent a kind of resistance.
I’m not sure I agree with Connell that “hegemonic masculinity” is entirely an artificial social construct even if it’s sometimes artificially propped up since these hierarchies so closely match ape patriarchy. Instead I lean more towards primatologist Richard Wrangham’s overall view that there’s a cultural war between factions, with one side preferring humanity stay mired in rapey ape patriarchy and another that recognizes this “path of least resistance”– i.e., wallowing in our primal nature on the grounds that it’s nAtUrAl– is suicidal and that we’ll have to consciously resist this primal trajectory in certain ways if we (or the planet) are going to survive.
Back to the main trunk, slogging through this is making me more convinced that the reason the “cheating as abuse” concept is getting such heavy flak is that it the idea threatens to root out a particularly insidious macro tumor that arguably impacts US (not to mention global) politics if you view the current “red wave” as partly fueled by a giant pick-me dance by women voters within the old rapey ape protection racket. Something about cheating seems to be weirdly important to “hegemonic power.”

As a side-note I also think part of the protection racket is the fact that the Democratic party in the US has heavily sold out, leaving women the depressing choice between a shit sandwich in egalitarian drag or a straight-up shit sandwich in many ways. But watching women participate in electing a known rapist spewing blatantly fascist ideology has been super trippy. I can’t get it out of my head that part of what may be fueling this is the lie that a more conservative Christian society would mean… less cheating.

I also suspect that part of this relates to what Trump buddy Jesse Watters signaled when he publicly put a kind of fatwa on women who don’t vote as their male partners do by saying this was as bad as adultery. Watters personal FWittery aside, no one should forget that, in the most extreme forms of patriarchy, female adultery is typically a killable offense and what Trump represents most of all is a trajectory towards that extreme. So I’m betting no one heard Watter’s dog whistle signal louder than women entrapped in abusive relationships with Fox News fans. That’s not to say that douchebags who vote Dem might not also coerce partners to vote as they do but let’s be honest: Democratic pundits– no matter how hypocritical– generally aren’t going to issue such a balls-out fatwa to the extent that Democrats are currently slightly more constrained by egalitarian drag.

Anyway, I’m still trying to sort all the above out but generally the way I see it, all forms of domestic coercive control make up part of the secret sauce that weakens women as a political force. I liken it to an argument I read about how the effort of women to remain thin and conform to conventional beauty standards is so physically taxing and brain-starving that, collectively, women lose the intellectual and emotional energy to politically mobilize. But I think part of the reason women disempower themselves in this and many other ways isn’t only the marginally valuable and heavily taxed “carrot” of gaining advantage within a patriarchal system but also to avoid the “stick” which Watters so clearly waved around when he issued the fatwa on air.

If you think about it, cheating is one of the few tools of domestic abuse and control that’s not only legal but also pretty much unlegislatable in democracy, meaning it likely can’t be directly outlawed without seriously undermining democracy (which wouldn’t be a problem for Watters ilk who would probably love to outlaw it only for women which was always standard in 20th century fascist societies). The other insidious tool of abusers is waging weaponized custody battles because this also aims at hard-wired human attachment. Financial abuse is a close second since this can be often life-threatening and also threaten family bonds.

But really nothing is currently as shrouded in romanticized bs alibis as cheating. And it’s starting to dawn on me that, in a political sense, the issues which are most shrouded in romanticized bs tend to be the linchpins for everything related, meaning that, if you pull that pin, the whole machine falls apart. In trying to reconcile that idea with Connel’s theories, I guess you could call infidelity the “linchpin of the linchpin” of hegemony or maybe of this thing she calls “legitimation” (whatever that is).

That’s where I’m at with this so far. Still reading.

But with all this talk about patriarchy I don’t want to leave out the fact that, as Connell argues, men are also getting screwed over (sometimes in a literal sense by partners) in the bargain. I don’t think it’s a contradiction to Connell’s concept of hegemonic hierarchies since, according to a similar theory about how women who internalize a “hyperfeminine” counterpart to “toxic masculinity” may be more prone to act in sexually coercive ways, those women who draw their sense of self worth from “pride of place” within the hegemonic system might tend to assert their conformity by showing less respect and more contempt towards men who represent certain “alternative masculinities” because, within hegemony, “good guys” are generally viewed as “finishing last” even if, in a different system, this would not be the case.

I think the latter has even been strongly demonstrated in countries like Sweden which, at least before the big privatization shitstorm in that country, had achieved more gender equality in government, business and academia than any other country in history. All of those structures were still hierarchical but one of the things that was observed is that the types of men who naturally “rise” within more gender-equal organizations tend to be less gratuitously aggressive, more intuitive, more team-oriented and generally groovier than the stock dominating “shark-narc” profile of men who thrive in less egalitarian structures. In other words, in some social organizations, good guys finish first. There was also reportedly a difference in the kinds of women leaders who ascended within more egalitarian structures: they tended to be more cooperative and coalitionary with other women in contrast to the typical “token” female power figures who rise– albeit less frequently– in patriarchal systems by sort of outdoing male aggression and often throwing other women (and, we might assume, men who are “insufficiently” knuckle-dragging) under the bus.

Ahem, end of spiel. To sum it up, LACGAL could arguably have “macro” impact!

Last edited 10 months ago by Hell of a Chump
Samsara
Samsara
10 months ago

I agree with your lynchpin Dx.

The whole gender divide issue is so big and problematic and the election confirms the scale of the issues underpinning the result. This kind of backlash was bound to happen with the heavy lean into toxic masculinity from a variety of sources / forces. Joe Rogan, Andrew Tate lit the fuse, Tucker Carlson fanned it furiously and Elon sent it into outer space. Noting even the most sparkly Hollywood stars can’t compete with actual space!

The link to cheating in terms of maintaining asymmetrical power structures is clear.

Cheating is a premium badge of entitlement. It serves as a reinforcement of conservative patriarchal values. It is designed to subjugate and oppress.

The mere threat of losing this entitlement (and the many sub categories of such entitlement that fall under its umbrella) is a loud dog whistle and serious rocket fuel for the misogynist cause. It is a world view that forces women into a pickme dance from an early age. I worry for all our youth generally but it is scary scary scary right now for young women especially.

As a counter balance to the genderisation of cheating the derisive term “simpcuck” (used in the Tate sphere) is an aggressive example of how these values negatively affect our chump men too. This is a problem for everyone. Performative femininity and performative masculinity hurts us all.

Jill Soloway FTW:
https://time.com/4527277/jill-soloway-donald-trump-locker-rooms-toxic-masculinity/

Last edited 10 months ago by Samsara
Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
10 months ago
Reply to  Samsara
Samsara
Samsara
10 months ago

Ugh. Really breathtaking. They do.not.care. Rogan doesn’t even question it. The way he casually raises the subject? He knew. Disgraceful.

The Rogan podcast is a perfect example of the kind of outreach of the men’s locker room per Jill Soloway. REAL men — the non toxic and respectful to women kind — need to call this kind of disgusting shit out.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
10 months ago
Reply to  Samsara

I think they care deeply about their tiny little pea-sized, broken egos and images and wallets. In fact, these douchebags are throbbing masses of vulnerability which can be aimed at and capsized.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
10 months ago
Reply to  Samsara

Brilliant summary, Samsara.

Something I noticed about the manosphere/Redpill lexicon on Wiki is that there are actually more terms deriding men for being insufficiently knuckle-dragging than there are terms attacking uppity or non-serviceable women. So much of that propaganda seems to be about goading men away from positive forms of masculinity and towards the most toxic. Given that the rate of male-on-male murder has always been consistently 8-fold higher than even male-on-female murder, I think there’s also an element of “fatwa” in this language particularly considering the increasing violent acts being associated with that cult. Maybe this is partly what Connell meant by “ligitimation”?

I also read the linked article so thanks for that.

Women call other women these names because women are unknowingly following a map about access, a how-to manual once offered as a way to live but more recently exposed as a map to gaining access to power. Patriarchy yells loudly and whispers subtly — constantly — that ladies, you really really wanna be one of the ones held aloft, if you want to be safe. Because no one in the locker room is talking about the legs or asses or pussies of another man’s wife, daughters or mothers.

One thing I probably should have elaborated more was how huge a lie it is that a more “Christian” nation would mean less men cheating. When Watters issued the not-so-veiled fatwa against women who don’t vote with husbands, some Trumpian women might have assumed he included male adultery in the analogous condemnation.

By his own track record Watters obviously didn’t include men. But women with particularly internalized misogyny seem to believe adultery is largely caused by “temptresses” and may accept the consolation of women being punished for sluttiness under theocratic or fascist repression which is, in fact, generally how it goes down in regimes like this. For instance, Nazi Minister of the Interior Wilhelm Frick recommended a ten year jail sentence for adultery despite the fact that many married Nazi elite were manic philanderers. So Hitler agreed but with the stipulation that prison sentences could only be demanded by betrayed husbands if this was considered “in the public interest.” Franco’s Spain decreed similar double standards: that women– but not men– who attempted to divorce or who were accused of adultery automatically lost custody of children. Under Mussolini, women who merely kissed a man other than their husband could be sentenced to a year in prison while men received no punishment. The latter law was repealed after WWII but then reinstated in 2015.

Samsara
Samsara
10 months ago

The controversy about the Women’s World Cup Soccer unwanted kiss takes on another contextual layer 🤔

To your point: agree women with internalized misogyny have more issues than Vogue. They do a lot of harm to their male partners and of course a lot of harm to other women. They don’t care about the equality fight. On other forums they are called “PickMeishas”.

If they can’t see (or, more likely, refuse to see or just plain disagree – hat tip Dr George Simon) the difference between having real personal power in terms of equality for all genders in all areas of life versus being given a mere hall pass to access patriarchal / men’s inherited rights of and to power, and on the Patriarchy’s terms, then we all have work to do.

It is easy to spot these types, it is similar to NIMBY. As long as it is only you who is being directly abused / oppressed / disadvantaged and yet they are not? Oh well that’s both your fault and your fight.

Ultimately, it is because they don’t want to see. They want to stand on the shoulders of the people who fought the real fight. They want to benefit from the oppressors but they also want to be able to say plausibly deniably that they stand with the resistance when push comes to shove. A foot in each camp per Coco Chanel’s vibe, as an example.

Power for me but not for thee is their life mantra and to them that’s fine: sucks to be you basically.

These women will play their assigned manchurian candidate role to perfection and that means (even if they do not understand it since it is programmed into them) “cuck-ing” the (say) alpha male designated “lesser men” or “simpcucks” acting just like any bully. They are a literal stand in for the terrorists in this role. Think Patty Hearst and her AK-47 in full Stockholm Syndrome mode.

Programmed sure, but still deadly.

The power totem remains. The needle on justice and equality is unmoved.

The red pill male version of this (on the other end of the spectrum and whether they know it or not who are also doing the bidding of the Patriarchy) are the cheating men who dislike and view women as an object for their exclusive use while also viewing women as a threat at their core. Those types of men who oppress and subjugate their daring-to-be-equal-thinking female partners by sexually humiliating, financially defrauding, socially decimating etc – also bullying in effect and also punishing in equal measure. They are manchurian candidate programmed too, just in a different way.

Soloway: “patriarchy yells loudly and whispers subtly”. Not said: it also does it constantly.

The end result is the same. The programming damage goes on for generations. No one wins.
Patriarchal power structures are both enforced and reinforced. The desired hegemony remains both on top and unaffected.

Cheating is but one of the means effective to the same oppressive and seriously unjust end.

Last edited 10 months ago by Samsara
Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
10 months ago
Reply to  Samsara

That element is particularly common in economic capitals. It’s refreshing to go abroad and be reminded that actual human beings still outnumber Orwellian Insta-bots.

2xchump
2xchump
10 months ago
Reply to  Tracy Schorn

Today’s writing was The best!!! It is true. Live your best life free of worshiping a cheater and having sex with one cooking.for one, laughing with one. Get free of being of use..and then learn what true happiness is

BastilleDDay
BastilleDDay
10 months ago

It’s 3 am & my worried mind won’t let me sleep. Always grateful for your blog & wisdom. This post especially. 💙

MidAtlantic
MidAtlantic
10 months ago

Thanks for the particularly inspiring post today. I’m years away from having to deal with a FW or Schmoopie in my life but still appreciate the wit and wisdom here, especially after this week’s unbelievable outcome.

chickadee
chickadee
10 months ago

My divorce is years ago now, but I still read the posts to keep me on the right track. This one was so good. Applicable to many situations, and you quoted one of my favorite painters, Alice Neel. Thank you for being awesome and keeping us all going when the road is rough.

Nancy
Nancy
10 months ago

Thank you Tracy for this post. Thank you for sharing your hard earned wisdom with others. It continues to make a difference!! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

Josh McDowell
Josh McDowell
10 months ago

I think many people lack insight and self-awareness; they’re just sleepwalking through life. Many view relationships as transactional and people as objects, it’s sad. At the same time, it’s all surface level and there is no intimacy because there is no vulnerability on an emotional level.

Hell of a Chump
Hell of a Chump
10 months ago
Reply to  Josh McDowell

Just hold out hope that this isn’t the case with everyone. I meet people all the time who are hungry for real connection but part of the reason I find them is because I tend to shamelessly wear the same hunger on my sleeve.

I get that there’s a big emotional risk in being that earnest. I’ll bet it’s double for men, particularly in American mythical-macho-corporate-shark culture. Even as a woman I’ve learned to weather periodic rejection by people who find that trait off-putting. But, fuck it, in the long run I don’t care because the rewards are so rich and I’ve managed to surround myself and my kids with some incredibly ride-or-die types. It’s really corny but there’s a lot of wisdom in the show tune, “People.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPlQ6EtArSc

Last edited 10 months ago by Hell of a Chump
2xchump
2xchump
10 months ago
Reply to  Josh McDowell

I was never truly loved, I was just of use. To know this truth is worth all the pain of being dumped. He was an alien 👽 in human form. I have been plucked from the fire. I can now be the true me without STDs Stis and lies.

Elsie_
Elsie_
10 months ago
Reply to  Josh McDowell

Yes, it is very surface-level and visceral. I would have this discussion with my ex — how do you think bringing up divorce on an ongoing basis is going to affect the future of our relationship? Do you think I like hearing about your sexy ex-girlfriend? What is porn doing to us as a couple?

He brushed it all aside and then ran off to another state to live his way. We were objects to him.

Chumpty Dumpty
Chumpty Dumpty
10 months ago

This is excellent, thank you!

snapoutofit
snapoutofit
10 months ago

I needed to hear this today. I currently feel like the serial cheater exFW is “winning” right now. I’ve been divorced 3.5 years (exFW & I were married 22 years) and this week just found out that the serial cheater exFW bought a house with his current girlfriend 3 months after our divorce was finalized. So apparently she was with him while we were divorcing and may have been in the picture while we were married. Turns out this girlfriend was also divorcing her husband at the same time I was divorcing the exFW. And guess what they divorced because you guessed it…she was cheating (she’s a serial cheater too). The thing that bothers me is that both exFw and girlfriend are doctors. Her ex husband and I both spent years being by their side through medical school, residency, having kids, and being the SAHM parent only to be discarded in our 50s by these jerks.

new here old chump
new here old chump
10 months ago
Reply to  snapoutofit

My ex left when he became successful- VERY- and I was so excited to finally be able to travel, not worry about money, etc.. and he married- I think married, he’s with for sure- a wealthier, younger, large breasted woman. And I was discarded after my parents and I took care of home buying, house work, child care…at 47. I too struggle. I have just sold my house because I have to, I have no real health insurance, and the only thing I ham qualified for workwise is babysitting. I do have a small “career” as a writer and I have great friends and my sons love me. Trust that they suck as someone said below, is a mantra I am working on. I may never be totally free, but coming here is a godsend. I thank everyone here for sharing their stories. I guess I feel like the worst is over for me regarding sadness/shame etc.. but – yeah. I saw my parents love each other, and I know it’s the most beautiful thing. I am grateful that for now I have my health, and I don’t miss his abuse. And that is a lot.

Dudette
Dudette
10 months ago
Reply to  snapoutofit

I understand the ‘winning’ issue and if there’s one thing I’ve struggled with over the years, it’s ’trust that they stuck’. My ex didn’t marry his cheatress (she’s married with three sons, lives on the other coast, and she apparently decided to keep up the illusion of being an ethical human). He ended up marrying someone who at first glance appears to be sparkly, mostly because she is very wealthy. I was absolutely certain that my ex was winning – happily married, and an active participant in the game of ‘he who dies with the most toys wins’ (Mr. Disney Dad). But with time – a slow reveal because I don’t pepper my kids with questions – I’ve heard numerous anecdotes to the contrary. He married a horrendous person, they argue constantly, and he is not happy.

I’m fortunate in that I’ve been able to act/speak in a compartmentalized and meh way, even when I don’t feel that way on the inside. But again, I’ve struggled with truly believing ‘trust that they suck’. My advice is to say that brilliant mantra over and over and over again, every single time your imagination wanders. Because they do suck – it’s just that you might not know it yet.

”The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” – MLK Jr

Best Thing
Best Thing
10 months ago
Reply to  Dudette

“I’ve struggled with truly believing ‘trust that they suck'”.

A big part of “trust that they suck” is realizing that you, yourself, are amazeballs. And if you don’t think that about yourself yet, find out why. That they do in fact suck, are rolling in dough, and are quite unhappy will not matter as much, or at all when you are living your best life. Someday one of your kids will say something about “Mr. Disney Dad” and you’ll think to yourself “Who? Oh, yeah, I kind of remember that guy. Poor sap.” And that’s the Tuesday Meh, that you will absolutely “feel that way on the inside”.

JeffWashington
JeffWashington
10 months ago
Reply to  snapoutofit

There’s a special breed of entitlement that goes with fuckwittery. Because of course we’re apparently expected to put them through school(did that!), run a household in the background while they do nothing “so they can focus on school”(did that!), all for AT BEST a very hollow thank you and then to get chumped and dumped. It’s infuriating.

They’ll get theirs. They always do. Horrors are done on credit.

Stay Mighty!

Dontfeellikedancin
Dontfeellikedancin
10 months ago
Reply to  JeffWashington

“Horrors are done on credit.”

🎯

Velvet Hammer
Velvet Hammer
10 months ago
Reply to  snapoutofit

Just so you know you’re not alone…

Married (I say “miraged”) for twenty years, together for twenty-seven. Full time parent, discarded in my 50’s, and they finalized the purchase of the Dream Condo
three months after the divorce was finalized. This after years of going house shopping and never agreeing to anything we looked at. I now know he was just jerking me and our daughter around. He said he could not live in anything with stairs because of his knees. Everywhere he has lived since he ditched us has stairs. The Dream Condo has three floors.

And….

It’s been seven years this week since I found out my life was not what I thought it was, that he was not who I thought he was.

I now no longer feel that either of them won anything. Turns out she is a sex worker, which is where he probably met her. He still has a stable of side pieces. They opened an illicit Asian massage parlor and escort service, which is currently being investigated by law enforcement. She services johns. I don’t know if they have agreed to be monogamous, but I wouldn’t want to be with either one of them anymore than I would chew gum stuck under a truck stop toilet seat.

When you lie and cheat and betray and otherwise do things you know will hurt someone, you deny yourself access to the best seats in the house that life has to offer, which feel indescribably better than the section they’re in, no matter what it looks like from the outside.

Just do today the best you can. One day at a time, my darling.

XXOO

Velvet Hammer
Velvet Hammer
10 months ago
Reply to  Velvet Hammer

My divorce was final three years ago too. How I feel is not about still loving the cheater or being jealous of the side piece or wanting to still be married to him. Infidelity is an indescribably painful wound that goes to the core and needs periodic cleaning.

❤️

new here old chump
new here old chump
10 months ago
Reply to  Velvet Hammer

great analogy. periodic cleaning…this I will use when I ca’t wish away the pain!

SDC
SDC
10 months ago

I am now cursed with wondering if Uncle Joe would have beaten Orange Man Bad had a bunch of fuckwits not kicked him in the balls.

Dudette
Dudette
10 months ago
Reply to  SDC

Mine is only one opinion, but I believe 100% that Harris gave the country a fighting chance. I think Orange Jesus would have walloped Biden; this is evidenced by OJ’s endless complaints about Harris being the last-minute nominee. OJ, the convicted felon, was scared . . . and similar to 2016, he is shocked that he won.

2xchump
2xchump
10 months ago

Letting go of my 2 cheaters forever and politics for 4 years..no contact in every way possible. That’s all that works to keep me sane. My health is a priority and to live well within my world.

damnitfeelsbadtobeachumpster
damnitfeelsbadtobeachumpster
10 months ago

a word on focus.

i write literary fiction but during the divorce, i did the nanowrimo and wrote 15,000 words of a murder mystery. it was liberating to write about murder and mayhem. i killed off the bad guy and my strong female detective collected evidence, connected the dots. she uncovered the decades old story.

it was fun. grisly. it was completely unlike anything i ever wrote. and it let me to take the story to a writing school, fully map it out into a screenplay, and create order out of chaos. it’s going well. i’m rewriting it for the 10th time.

i’m 1 1/2 year from divorce.

back to my homework.

new here old chump
new here old chump
10 months ago

I’m a writer too and came here because of the Liars review in the new yorker and in my next book I kill off a psycho dude who is a stand in for my cheater, but also for many of the men that came before and after him (abuse was my game for much of my life, most of it married, 3 years free). It was cathartic. It also was upsetting sort of reliving some of the things. But. Yes, back to homework.

JeffWashington
JeffWashington
10 months ago

Working on COMPLETING my second NaNoWriMo entry myself(currently on pace!)

As I posted about previously, I had my first ever completion last year, T+90 days from D-Day. It’s liberating, isn’t it?

Keep it up!

damnitfeelsbadtobeachumpster
damnitfeelsbadtobeachumpster
10 months ago
Reply to  JeffWashington

have fun! i hope you kill someone off in your script. #therapeutic

JeffWashington
JeffWashington
10 months ago

I had an Eskimo kill Schmoopie in last year’s book. Complete throw-away line for a book that will never see the light of day but it gave me a chuckle to write.

Good times.

ChumpNoMore
ChumpNoMore
10 months ago
Reply to  JeffWashington

That my friend is random!

damnitfeelsbadtobeachumpster
damnitfeelsbadtobeachumpster
10 months ago

*led

Stepbystep
Stepbystep
10 months ago

Yes to all the coping strategies.

I found an odd superpower. I no longer cry at injustice (except maybe abandoned pets). I will not give my power away in the form of tears or rage. I think and then I act.

2xchump
2xchump
10 months ago

Thank you Tracy..find YOUR joy. Don’t curse the darkness, turn on a lighthouse

JeffWashington
JeffWashington
10 months ago

I needed this today. Thank you.

Personally, I think they only “win” when we submit to them. The path to being “Mighty” is to resume control of strength and to retake sanity from this cruel world.

I tell my clients (and anybody else that will listen, such as yourselves)-you have to get aggressive with your depression. For me at least, the hardest part is getting started. I made fantastic inroads toward healing when I started to retake elements of my life by force. I know it’s a lot easier said than done.

There are the things that my fuckwit has ruined and taken from me. Then there are the things that I can actually change and control. I try to focus on those and try to limit how much I dwell on that idiot.

Feliz Jueves!

ChumpyDays
ChumpyDays
10 months ago

Scrolling through my email, I came across this post in a particularly necessary time. I shared my story here in March, which was my first time ever sharing with anyone and that gave me the confidence to leave.

Fast forward to now… since I’ve left him, I found out his car of his that he was so generously lending me in exchange for me taking care of the bill…. well I found out the bill was a fraction of what he was charging me and he profited over $4k off me. In April, I discovered that he returned to his original destination vacation spot with Schmoopie, while begging me to be friends post-breakup. Once I discovered he returned to her, heart obliterated, I tried to sever another tie by changing my phone number. He contacted our phone provider with my IMEI # to shut my phone off and reported stolen, forcing me to borrow money from my dad to buy a new phone.

Since then, I’ve had more moments than I can count where I felt like maybe I might actually be dying. The crippling panic attacks and debilitating depression were at the forefront of my story for a while. Not to mention the one time I did run into him in a crowded event and literally hauled ass so fast I probably looked like a psycho.

Its November now, I’ve moved to a new city with a new job but I still feel like hes won against me. I feel like Schmoopie won against me. Not that my ex is much of a prize based on what I know about him, but it still burns the same. They are now (and have been since a few weeks after we separated) in an extremely public and affectionate relationship. Doing things, going places we never did. Vacationing every month, matching ensembles, public support. Technically, I shouldnt know this because we all have eachother blocked on socials and his family has completely blocked me on everything (which hurts in a different way). I’ve lost my entire friend circle, as they don’t seem to mind this new reality.

I guess this is all just traditional stuff and I can’t cry that 5 months later, I got a notification of being kicked off the Costco account. Everything hurts. All the time. My head, my heart… And no matter how much I try to pour into myself, the random flash backs keep me prisoner in my own mind. As if I’m a second class citizen who is undeserving of love and a happy relationship. It seems like after all, the bad guy does usually win. While I’m left trembling in a corner. It comes in waves, I know it’ll pass one day but when?

I’ll reread this post and look for inspiration in the comments. I really need it.

new here old chump
new here old chump
10 months ago
Reply to  ChumpyDays

I was you in so many ways. Walking down the streets alone ashamed, afraid, 110 pounds- a skeleton- with no idea of what to do. I am so proud of you for moving to a new city and having a new job! You are not alone and what you describe he did to you- He’s a piece of shit. you don’t know it yet, but you are so lucky to finally be free of him. When you tell your story, as you did here, from the outside- from people listening to this horrific behavior- we are happy you are not near a person who can do that to someone they once shared a life with! He’s TERRIBLE. you’re not wrong when that idea flickers- it’s just hard to realize you were with someone terrible, or it was for me ans still is. But they are professionals. This is what they do, they mindfuck you, but it in the end – tehy are a bag of lies and bad behavior. I remember being young and seeing grown ups like them and being disgusted…It took my 7 years..and as above people who said- wound cleaning helps, and aggressively fighting the depression. I also will add there is nothing wrong with a good cry once in awhile. Allow yourself to feel and then if you can that day- get up and do something nice. I go to bakeries. Buy a cupcake, and watch a documentary about awful people eventually falling in the whole they dug.

OHFFS
OHFFS
10 months ago
Reply to  ChumpyDays

You’ll get your Tuesday. I thought I could never possibly recover, but I did.
One way to hasten your recovery would be to close whatever channel it is you have into knowing about FW’s life. It’s only hurting you. One day you’ll get that FW and OW need those matching ensembles (eeewww!) and endless vacations because they are completely vacant and desperately need both validation and novelty just in order to keep going. I remember pointing out to FW (who was jealous of his friends being on vacation so often) that any couple that goes on vacations that often is a couple in trouble. The vacations are an escape from having to live together with nothing to distract them from how hollow the relationship really is.
Naturally, FW could not get it. He probably understood it intellectually to some degree, but he could not actually internalize it, because he is just as vacant himself.
The matching outfits are to reassure themselves that they are a team, because they subconsciously know they really aren’t.
Everything you described is evidence that their lives are, from a chump’s perspective, quite empty and sad. That’s what matters here- the chump perspective, not the FW perspective. When you truly internalize that, you’ll know you’re on the road to recovery. Eventually, you won’t care how well or how poorly they’re doing or what other people think of them. You’ll make new friends, friends who have the same values as you this time and won’t abandon you at your time of need. You’ll choose them wisely because you’ll know what sort of people you want in your life and what the red flags for incompatible values are. You’ll find your way.

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2xchump
2xchump
10 months ago
Reply to  ChumpyDays

You are still climbing out of the well of darkness. You are where you are expected to be. When you’re in a massive wreck, you go to the ER first, then surgery, then ICU. Maybe you are still in the ER, I don’t know. You’re not in surgery or you’d not feel anything under anesthesia. Next is ICU. I’m an old ER nurse so I get it. As you process the grief, you will start to get to meh.. sorry..years…hold on. I’ve had 2 men dump me for OW..I recovered from one..meh and the other was 2 years ago D day. I’m getting so much better. You will too. Keep going each day to be a better person for you!

FYI_
FYI_
10 months ago
Reply to  ChumpyDays

Very big hug to you, ChumpyDays. There IS another side, and you WILL get there.

Best Thing
Best Thing
10 months ago
Reply to  ChumpyDays

First, wow this FW sucks HARD. Idk if you were legally married but that thing about charging you extra for the car payment is something that needs to be taken to court. Maybe that can be done in small claims if you weren’t married, Idk.

Now, empathy. We all have the same stories, even if the details are different. So we have all been where you are and know what you are going through. If you are new to chumpdom (March was not a long time ago) then know that’s it’s going to hurt for a long time. You will be dealing with your depression, anger, resentment, etc. for awhile yet. Take care of yourself in every way that you can, all or some of: healthy diet, exercise, prayer/meditation, socializing with people who support you, journaling, professional therapy. Anything that you do is better than nothing that you do.

Now for the tough love. Girl (or boy), get off the floor! Stand up with a straight spine and look in the mirror. Who the eff is fuckwit?? He does NOT get power over you, your life, your thoughts, your moods. All of those things and more are yours. Get him out of your head and kick him to the curb the way he did to you. Get him out of your head. Here’s a mantra for you (courtesy of my dead father who came to me in a dream during the worst of my FWs discard abuse): “Who are you? And what are you made of?” Every time you face a challenge where you think you will fold under the pressure and emotion, ask yourself “Who am I? What am I made of?” If that doesn’t work for you, think of something that will get you through.

Early days, weeks, months of facing this shite are hard, tough, difficult. But you have to get up every morning and live your life. I’m wishing you the best of luck and love in dealing with your situation.

new here old chump
new here old chump
10 months ago
Reply to  Best Thing

Love this. Right? That guy is SHITE. I love Therapy! I did a group one too. I also was such a wreck that I was told to “spread myself thin” and this sounds bad- it hurt me at the time- but it was good advice for me. it helped me not over burden my people.Keep coming here and reading the stories. The eeriness of the cheater/betrayer narrative blueprint is amazing. It’s like they have a secret society of dumb cruelty.

ChumpInSunlight
ChumpInSunlight
10 months ago
Reply to  ChumpyDays

Sometimes it helps to take it one day at a time. It’s still early days for you.

One thing that helped me early on was to set goals for myself not to think about ex. 10 minutes. 30 minutes. An hour. I kept upping my goal time each day. Truly being intentional and practicing it. Reminding myself that he doesn’t deserve a place in my head. It helped and I got better at it until suddenly a whole day would go by and I hadn’t thought of him. Then a few days. Then a week…

Hang in there. Trust that they suck, no matter how sparkly they look. They can never know real happiness.

Dudette
Dudette
10 months ago
Reply to  ChumpyDays

I’m so sorry, ChumpyDays. Please re-read what Tracy went through – absolutely awful, and it took her a lot of time, but remember the good place where she’s ended up. I’ve posted my experience above, to Snapoutofit. Act as meh as you can and most of all, say it over and over and over again: trust that they suck. It needs to be your mantra.

ChumpInSunlight
ChumpInSunlight
10 months ago

Thank you so much for this post, it’s just what I needed. Divorced from Ex since 2017 (15 yr marriage) but have been in court almost constantly since (7 years! Ugh). Ex just can’t let it go and needs to fight. Two more court dates coming up this month. Some days it’s really hard to be present and focus on the joy in my life with this court stuff hanging over me – it takes me being really intentional about setting it down in my mind.

FWs sure can continue to make chaos even after divorce when there are kids involved 😑. They SO suck.

HealingGirl
HealingGirl
10 months ago

When I left an abusive relationship some years ago, I wrote a list of 10 things that my ex-FW wouldn’t “let” me do (at least, not without the disapproval or headache that came with it), and I went and did them. It reminded me of the ways that staying in an abusive relationship was keeping me from experiencing the things in life that I wanted. Cheaters and their entitlement/projections usually go hand-in-hand- it shouldn’t be too difficult to come up with some ideas, and it was very cathartic and helped me to find myself again.

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2xchump
2xchump
10 months ago

Oh wow !! Loved your history segments and your article writing on Thaddeus Stevens ! Again Tracy, you have the gritty details but also the big picture. Something all of us chumps need to keep in our minds. The rear view mirror yes, but also what’s ahead. At what price freedom?!

LookingForwardsToTuesday
LookingForwardsToTuesday
10 months ago

I would always recommend trying to view a “loss” from a long term and strategic perspective; that usually helps put it in its proper place and ensure that you see it from an appropriate perspective.

I could have chosen to view our divorce settlement (which saw me surrender 95% of the equity in our house, a significant proportion of my pension pot and left me with over £25K worth of debt and living with the kids in a rental property) as a “loss” …. but I didn’t. I got the two things that I wanted (custody of our 3 kids) and a clean break, figuring that I could dig my way of any hole that I was in given enough time and effort on my part, backed up with some judicious belt-tightening.

I figured that it would take me 10 years to get out of debt and back onto the property ladder whilst supporting the kids through school and University. It actually took me 2 years to sort the debt, 6 years to get back on the property ladder and the youngest will graduate in less that 2 year’s time (ie 8 years from the finalisation of the Divorce). I won’t say that it’s been an easy run (and I’m not quite there yet), but the settlement (which I’ll admit stung at the time) wasn’t a “loss”; it was the start point for my journey forwards.

LFTT

OHFFS
OHFFS
10 months ago

IMO this is the wisest, most profound blog post in CL’s considerable oeuvre. I could not agree more with everything here. Good people need to keep snarking and exposing these frauds for what they are (and I don’t mean just FWs.) Be the splinter in the eye of hypocrisy, but keep on laughing, because you hand them a win if they can steal your capacity for joy. When the bastards win, you really have no choice but to regroup, recover and start over. Hang onto your values no matter what they do. Don’t let their existential emptiness and nihilism infect you. Caring hurts, but you must keep on caring regardless, lest you become one of the walking dead like them.

Belly rubs are indeed the ultimate healing balm, btw. I was just indulging in a spot of it this morning. My darling girl came right up to me in bed, pushed her face next to mine and made the tiny “oof!” noise that signals she wants affection. What can be better than that? FW can have his bullshit life. I no longer care that he gets away with his “good guy” act with others. I have my authentic life and I wouldn’t trade it for his for anything.

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tallgrass
tallgrass
10 months ago

I was thinking today about how slow and painful it was for me to shut off the flow of energy. There are humans who cannot create their own joy or even any emotion so they attach and lazily suck the life out of others. Consciously waking up and shutting off the power supply, gray rock-like, was the key to my freedom even though I didn’t know anything about narcs or gray rock at the time.

They’re like ticks. Macro or micro level. They shrivel up and die when they can’t get a power supply to suck off of.

Velvet Hammer
Velvet Hammer
10 months ago

Very simply, you can’t be a jerk AND a winner.

It’s one or the other.

Cheaters, by definition, proven by their behavior, are not winners. And neither are consenting side pieces.

Velvet Hammer
Velvet Hammer
10 months ago
Reply to  Velvet Hammer

Cheaters and side pieces treat other people like shit. The cheater is treating YOU like shit, loud and clear, no mistake. And their own children, because trust and safety and the security of the intact bird’s nest (family) is of paramount importance to baby birds. The consenting side pieces are complicit. Their Nice Guy/Gal behavior is MANIPULATION, because quality people, good people, wonderful people, don’t treat ANYONE like shit. They do not do things they know will hurt others, that they know is wrong and will hurt others.

If someone makes an effort to treat EVERYONE well, that is a green flag.

If someone is SELECTIVE who they “treat well”, that is MANIPULATION and a big neon warning sign.

People who treat people like shit are not winners. They are losers, and best left to each other. They have won nothing.

YOU have, but it takes a long time to feel that.

Last edited 10 months ago by Velvet Hammer
Daughterofachump
Daughterofachump
10 months ago
Reply to  Velvet Hammer

More wisdom from Velvet Hammer. Thank you!

jahmonwildflower
jahmonwildflower
10 months ago

They do not win in the log run. Ever. I recall back when I first found out about one lie about one betrayal object (of countless lies and countless BOs), yes I was horrified. I’d met her twice (once with her then-husband) and she was so unattractve, inarticulate, and just plain old trashy that I couldn’t imagine…I kept saying to my then-FW that as sucky as it felt for me, I am glad I was in my spot and not his. That became more and more true as time passed and I learned of so many others. What a sad, pathetic (and diseased) person he was. If conning me and the family, as well as his colleagues was his winning, he could have it. I come from much more resilient and stronger stock than any of this nonsense could destroy. The con is not winning. The betrayal isn’t winnng. Karma, reality, whatever you wish to call it will arrive and it is a bitch. My FW, to the best of my knowledge, will spend the rest of his miserable life with a Foley catheter in his long-term care facility. I’m racing 5ks, taking road trips, going to my gym, book clubs, massage therapist, lunch with friends a few times a week and just made hotel and flight res for my 50th college graduation reunion in April. I feel about as much a winner as I could ever hope for. Him, well… I think it pretty much sucks to be him. We chumps have to get back up every single day and not let defeat keep us down, either from a FW or anyone else. We are not permanently defeated.No matter what your age (I’m in my 70s and look forward to a fabulous 4th quarter) Get up and fight. We are with you.

ChumpNoMore
ChumpNoMore
10 months ago

That was just what I needed. Thank you Tracey. Sending love to all our American cousins at this difficult time.

demonwolf
demonwolf
10 months ago

This is outstanding advice.

Also, I thought I was out of my tree for feeling such powerful D-Day flashbacks. Now it makes sense.