UBT: Guy Suing Apple for Not Deleting His Cheating Texts
There’s a guy in England who is suing Apple for not deleting his texts to prostitutes. His wife discovered the messages, and now he blames Apple for the resulting divorce. The Universal Bullshit Translator weighs in.
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The Times reports that a man in the UK claims his divorce “was a direct result of compromising texts that had been wiped from his iPhone still being visible on the family iMac.”
Everyone who has ever had a D-Day knows where this is going next.
The problem is not this man’s wandering dick — the problem is the family iMac. It didn’t keep his secrets.
Uh, maybe he shouldn’t have secrets?
Wrong answer, chump-o. Technology has failed him! Heads must roll! This is a travesty! How many philanderers must suffer before Apple hears their anguished cries?
Apple may be ignoring him, but the Universal Bullshit Translator is here for it.
Oh the pathos
Richard, not his real name, said he had turned to prostitutes in the last years of his marriage and had arranged the meetings through the iMessages app. After making the arrangements he would delete the messages, believing the trail of his infidelity had been hidden.
Richard put his faith in the iMessage app. And iMessages betrayed him. How could iMessages have so callously discarded their social contract?
However, when his wife clicked on the same app on the family iMac, it showed that the last message he had sent to another person’s iPhone was to a prostitute. When she looked further she found several years’ worth of supposedly deleted messages to prostitutes.
Richard was led to believe his infidelity trail was hidden. How DARE the iMac reveal actual messages Richard sent prostitutes. Just because Richard does not understand the finer points of device sharing or deletion doesn’t mean his double life should be exposed.
She filed for divorce within a month.
Had she only remained ignorant of his years-long habit of fucking strange she could’ve died of cervical cancer by now. The unmitigated cheek of this woman and her lawyers.
Karma
Richard, a middle-aged businessman and father who lives in England but does not want to disclose his home town, is pursuing legal action against Apple in the hope of recovering more than £5 million he lost in the divorce, plus legal costs.
I’m sorry. The UBT needs a moment.
He claims the company does not make it clear to customers that iMessages sent to another iPhone user can be seen on other linked Apple devices, even if they have been deleted on the phone.
Apple needs to work harder to make its features more cheater-friendly. Consider the vast market of Johns.
He told The Times: “If you are told a message is deleted you are entitled to believe it’s deleted.
And Richard is all about taking vows seriously. #honestymatters
He was only thinking of his dick wife
“It’s all quite painful and quite raw still. It was a very brutal way of finding out [for my wife]. My thoughts are if I had been able to talk to her rationally and she had not had such a brutal realisation of it, I might still be married.
Richard is thinking only of his ex-wife. How hard this has been on her. How she suffers with that £5 million.
His thoughts are: “If only I had been able to gaslight her more effectively — I WAS TEXTING THE PLUMBER! How dare you leap to conclusions! — I might still be married.”
“We were very happily married and had been for over 20 years. I think what had been a superb marriage has been thrown away for something which many men do, and some women do, but mainly men.
I don’t understand these men who throw away their happy marriages. My deception marriage was superb. I ate cake every day.
“Talking to some of my friends, some of them have had affairs — which I consider a much greater breach of trust — and still stayed married after they had been revealed. I think there would have been a way through it if the realisation hadn’t been so sudden and brutal and upsetting.”
I didn’t care about the prostitutes I screwed! They were just orifices to me, whom I rated like Amazon purchases. I am a far better class of cheater than those grubby men with their emotions. I fuck without feeling. Mistresses require seduction. You actually have to pretend to care. I just purchase pussy. Ergo, I’m much more admirably transactional.
My cheating isn’t the problem. It’s the sudden and brutal truth. Which set her free.
This has been hard on Richard. No harder.
As well as the financial loss caused by the divorce, Richard said the effect on his health had been dramatic. “I was on really strong beta blockers to try to reduce my panic attacks,” he said.
The UBT hopes your dick goes limp from blood pressure meds.
“I genuinely thought I was going to have a heart attack. Divorce is an extraordinarily stressful process and you have children and family dynamics. In my opinion it’s all because Apple told me my messages were deleted when they weren’t.
How could Apple have lied to him? He put his faith in Apple to never let him down! Apple told him something that WASN’T TRUE.
Divorce is incredibly stressful. Think of the children. Like Richard does when he’s fucking prostitutes.
“If the message had said, ‘These messages are deleted on this device’, that would have been a clue, or ‘These messages are deleted on this device only’ that would have been even better.”
Had there only been a clue. Richard needs a clue.
Call the lawyers.
He has engaged the London law firm Rosenblatt to pursue legal action against Apple. It is looking into establishing a class action lawsuit on a no-win, no-fee basis. “Even if there are a couple of hundred people in the UK who have got similar divorce payouts to me, then that is a £1 billion claim and it’s probably a global situation,” Richard said.
Richard isn’t the only cheater looking for a payout. There are probably millions of selfish, clueless bastards out there.
Since his divorce he said he has heard of other people experiencing similar problems. “I have heard of one father’s messages going to a teenage son’s iMac and he was seeing all sorts of messages he shouldn’t have,” he said.
Apple should really do a better job at shielding children from discovering who their parents really are. Get on that, Silicon Valley.
“In another case messages were apparently appearing on an Apple TV being watched by the wife upstairs while the man was downstairs on his phone.”
Can’t a man privately text prostitutes while his wife is watching Ted Lasso? I don’t know what the world is coming to.
By Richard I assume you mean Dick?
Tracy nailed it again. The stupidity, and the brazen entitlement to cake in this guy! I hope the lawsuit loses big time.
OMG, this is too funny. My ex should think about joining on this legal suit too. He basically got caught through technology as well by forgetting to log off a shared account where he “accidentally” uploaded home made porn with he and Schmoopie to my son’s shared photo account. After finding that, my detective instincts kicked in and I found a lot more. Everything was neatly packaged for my lawyer. Happily we live in a fault state but FW dragged it out as long as he could.
This guy is just a typical cheater but it is great to know that he honestly think he should be entitled to a settlement for this. Seems that it is just another thing that they can add to their playbook.
My advice is that if you are loyal and have a moral compass you don’t have to worry about these technology issues. I think the worst thing I may have in my photos is the odd wine label for something I really enjoyed, a picture of a cute pet, pictures of my tomatoes (they are looking good this year) and an odd assortment of vacation and house pics. My messages are probably just as dull.
Yeah, but if he wins, he could use the money for more whores!!!
Nope, wasn’t him, it was Apple. No siree, wasn’t his fault. No way, Jose’!
Me thinks his wife divorced him more for not taking accountability than skanking prosties. What a sleazeball lawsuit! This is one where I wish Apple unleashes their big bucks lawyers on 👍
I noticed that Mr. Dick isn’t claiming that it was Apple who hired the hookers. Loll
Sounds like his real complaint is that wife divorced him instead of eating a shit sandwich like his friends wives.
And I’d bet that his marriage wasn’t as happy as he thought. It was happy for HIM because he was getting the benefits of a wife and family while screwing hookers.
Right? “It was a superb marriage!” Yeah I’m sure it was for him. He gets his wife appliance, plus all the sex workers he could pay for! Of course he would call that superb.
Considering the swiftness with which his wife lawyered up and served him the papers I would like to hear her side…
Also and his mention of his buddies who have had affairs. Looks like the company he keeps wasn’t exactly favorable. I do wonder what his wife has to say about that, and if she’s friends with any of his buddie’s wives…
Murderers don’t like a gun pointing at their heads.. Thieves don’t want their pockets picked. Liars don’t appreciate being lied too. Richard has used DARVO his entire marriage. .it’s not what I did, it’s YOU and your reaction to it..now on a BiG stage, blame APPLE!!!!!! Cheaters line up to sue and lesser cheaters get alerted ans more tech savvy?. It’s just another chapter in the cheater manual, ALL Chumps need to be alert too. Richard’s wife likely had other clues, surely this discovery is part of abuse she is accustomed too. Consequences are what cheaters hate, absolutely must blame others…it is necessary to keep your own yard looking picked up. Applause to Richard’s wife though. She could have done the pick me dance or joined the RIC, she deserves our support and accolades. But she is fortunate to be free from crying Richard. Way to be Mighty!!! My cheater blamed me all the way to the courtroom and beyond. Blame is the air in the lungs. Stay alert all chumps, see abuse and run!
We were very happily married
…because I was having sex with prostitutes while my wife appliance took care of the kids, the house and the dog…
….and my wife had no idea what was going on. It was the perfect balance of entitlement and deception.
For any newbies here (CN alums will forgive me telling this again) —
On New Years Eve during “The Troubles,” I was in the first floor master bedroom on my laptop while the Kunty Kibbler was in the kitchen. Suddenly I heard her go upstairs to my daughter’s bedroom. Her iPad was on the end table and suddenly started pinging. I took a look and saw that somebody I’ve never seen nor heard of was responding to either emails or messages she was sending.
She came down 20 minutes later and came into our bedroom. When I asked, “What were you doing upstairs?” she responded that she’d had a minor panic attack after completing a online grocery delivery order and just needed to be alone in a quiet room. I repeated the question, she repeated her answer. I asked again, she stormed out of the room with a “Fine! Believe whatever you want!”
By the next morning, I got her to confess to sending suggestive pics to some active serviceman in Asia.
I blame the iPad.
Right! UXWorld’s Kunty Kibbler XW could maybe join Dick’s, I mean Richard’s (not his real name) suit against Apple, and get the suit going globally. I’m sure UXWorld will immediately alert her to this. Any day now.🤣😂🤣
“I think what had been a superb marriage has been thrown away “
Yes it was and his actions threw it away, not Apple or anyone else.
The Revelation Will Be Televised!
The same technology that makes cheating easier than ever also makes it easier than ever to be caught with tangible evidence.
It’s not like the phone company isn’t going to not cough up information if subpoena’d.
What’s really going to bake this guy’s noodle is when he finds out that deleted files are not necessarily actually deleted until fully overwritten by other files.
I don’t know how the British legal system works-but I imagine it’s going to take a little more than “I didn’t read the fine print in like 12 End User License Agreements and that is why my marriage actually ended, not because I betrayed my wife and family” to get him any sort of compensatory damage.
Had to stop myself for a second-almost wrote information that could be helpful to fuckwits.
Have a Mighty Monday!
Wait until he finds the “recently deleted” file that holds on to things for 60 days XD
It is all in the fine print. I admit to not reading all of that unless it is something I am paying for, or not familiar with, but I know the basics; and that is whatever you put out there on the IN is out there and it can be found fairly easily.
Streisand Effect. I don’t imagine his hookers would have much ethical difficulty with coughing up his texts as well if it came to it.
Well well well, this does sound familiar to me! Maybe my ExFW could join the lawsuit (although we don’t live in the UK).
On my DDay I discovered iMessages between ExFW and a prostitute, this was only a partial conversation but revealing enough (arranging a ‘meeting’, discussing prices, including a dickpick, refering to previous encounters,…) for me to end our relationship. I found these iMessages totally by accident on an old ipad that was mainly being used for playing games by our child and me. Apparently this ipad once was synchronised to Ex’s apple account. If he had just texted the prostitute I would have never found out. The security settings on his phone were crazy (supposedly because there was ‘confidential client information’ on there) and his phone bill went to his business adress. But he did use iMessages : because it’s cheaper? to brag with his iphone? (I’m just a simple chump with an android phone and not some high end hooker with an iphone – so I don’t know how this works). And I’m glad I did find out the truth. I had felt something was off for a long time, but I never would have guessed he lead a perverted year-long double life. Thanks for the breakdown Chumplady & UBT – I hope this ‘Dick’ loses his lawsuit!
He says, “It was a very brutal way of finding out [for my wife].”
What he actually means is that the messages he wrote to these prostitutes (plural) were so obscene, so vile, so venereal that she threw up. She found out in an instant what kind of creature she was married to, and she couldn’t take it another instant.
“How could iMessages have so callously discarded their social contract?“
😂😂😂
This story explains everything anyone would ever need to know about the mindset of cheaters. Rules are for everyone else, but not for them. Promises to them must be kept, promises they make, not so much. Fault must be assigned to all of their actions, but whaddya know, it’s never their fault.
My ex would lose his mind over red light camera tickets. It made no sense to me. I mean, there was actual video footage and photos of him turning right on red attached to the ticket. He would be adamant that he came to a stop… but it was clear on the video he didn’t. He would always say: “everyone else gets away with driving however they want!” which is the exact logic the guy suing Apple is applying when he talks about other people that cheated and stayed married.
It’s a little mental trick they play on themselves where they imagine a group of people getting away with the illicit activity they want to do, and then say to themselves “If they are doing it, I am entitled to do it to.”
Huzzah for his ex-wife that obviously took him to the cleaners. She must revel in it bothering him so much that he is now publicly embarrassing himself.
Ug, this story is just too good.
That’s a great point. Not only did he cheat privately….he has now admitted his bullshit in front of the ENTIRE WORLD in a law suit. Who wouldn’t want to be married to that?
Need to watch the video segment from the brilliant Eddie Izzard on computer agreements & fine print. Also all his other computer segments. Link
I’m sure my ex is cursing Find My iPhone somewhere. Mwahahaha. It was such a great conversation. Her: “so you’re tracking my phone now?” Me: “Is that what you’re going with?”
I laughed so hard at this comment! Brilliant ChumpDchump.
To quote Nelson from the Simpsons:
“Ha ha!”
My dear exH was caught lying many times via Apple technology.
One example which stands out to me is the time he vehemently denied any cheating after having severe neck and back bruising. He was actually yelling at me in full rage mode about the outrageous questions I was asking him. Before flouncing off into the living room, he dared me to find one shred of proof.
I went into his home office. Took one of his old iPads off the bookshelf and charged it up. Within 15 minutes his previously “deleted” messages with his “fuckbuddy de jour” started pinging. I read them and took screen shots with my phone.
I then calmly walked into the living room, tossed his old iPad onto the sofa next to him and coyly asked:
“Would you consider this a shred of evidence?”
Of course the ensuing discussion was all about my invasion of his privacy.
What can one even say about this level of arrogance? It’s like the old joke about how do you define chutzpah (a bold type of arrogance)? A guy who kills his parents and then throws himself on the mercy of the Court because he’s an orphan.
Here is a man who takes NO responsibility for his actions and only hides behind….if she’d never known what a rotten, lying, cheating bastard I was…”I” would still be happily married. She’d still be deluded. I’m sure life would have been easier for Mrs. Bernie Madoff if she’d never discovered what a POS of shit Bernie was. But sometimes reality inserts itself into the fantasy of these people’s lives and scoundrels get found out. It’s nobody’s fault but their own and this needs to get thrown out of Court.
I have to wonder how many people REALLY would be okay finding out that their spouse is using prostitution services or broadcasting their naked body and homemade porn to assorted potential and actual sex partners? I tend to think this would make a big dent in even the biggest marital facade.
This guy is such a POS. I hope he gets the worst in court. That said, this really needs to be made more well known and thank you for writing about it. my FIRST thought is what about victims of domestic violence trying to secretly plan their escape to save their and their childrens’ lives? What if their messages to friends and family who will help with the escape are not covered up by deleting? What about search histories of domestic violence shelters? I really hope DV victims see this and delete the hostories from all devices.
It is an issue for sure.
However, though I only use a couple forms of social media, when I have deleted messages/text etc; it throws up a warning that it is only deleting from that screen and other users may still see it.
I only delete to clean out my string of posts, so it doesn’t matter to me.
I hope shelters use secured avenues for their stuff. Aside from a secured site with a specific access; I don’t think there is any way to be sure. I just assume what ever I print will be accessible by others.
I hope Apple can counter sue for user absurdity. That would be fun!
“Service provider can not be held accountable for client stupidity. If consumers have low IQ, it is not the fault of Apple.”
This is just going to add an additional long paragraph to the terms and agreements section of the page that none of us bothered to read.
There is no way that this loser paid out 5 million in the divorce. That is what he is claiming because he thinks he can get that, or even part of that, from Apple.
He’s lying about that too. She is well rid of him.
“I think what had been a superb marriage has been thrown away for something which many men do….”
He has a strange definition of “a superb marriage.” Clearly, his (now ex) wife did not agree it was so superb once the serial cheating was revealed. Plus, his using of people as objects is sickening! Glad he got caught, and I hope the Apple lawyers gives him a wake up call 😉
Wow. Just WOW. The level of entitlement and denial in this guy. The phrase that keeps coming to my mind is, “I laughed until I threw up.” (Apologies to Monty Python).😳
I get the feeling the case is being sponsored by litigators and maybe competitors in the hopes of getting a big payday from some gap in Apple’s privacy policy. There might even be privacy mavens behind it though likely not the Assange camp– more like corporate secret-keepers who want better ways of deflecting discovery in lawsuits and government investigations. The plaintiff is probably just a sock puppet for it and may or may not be as dumb as he sounds.
Or… I could be getting it completely wrong. What if the case was mounted simply to be laughed out of court and to get the public rallying behind shielding companies like Apple from liability for doing what they’ve been doing all along– retaining user data and private communications and then selling or unlawfully sharing these things with various governments?
What gives me that “Zounds! There be fuckery afoot!” feeling is how spectacularly dumb the plaintiff sounds and how dumb the lawyers must be to let him shoot his mouth off in the tabloids. I suppose that’s possible and I’m just looking too deeply into it but, since the Snowden disclosures (Apple was among the companies exposed for fuckery), many of us are used to things not being what they seem when it comes to surveillance state nonsense and the battle for privacy.
LOL. My ex-FW could get in on the class action lawsuit. He wasn’t aware that “Find My iPhone” revealed time spent at the Marriott SpringHill Suites when he was supposedly at a work dinner….damn Apple.
Oh my, what a horrid reality this jerk constructed for himself. “If only” she hadn’t seen the texts, their “superb” marriage would have survived. She may have had simmering suspicions and concerns if this one is anything like what many of us experienced. Divorce generally isn’t something you just do one day. Something pushes you over the cliff.
And suing a large corporation like Apple for user stupidity is an exercise in futility. Good luck with that.
It is my sincere hope that it goes to trial and is televised. I wanna watch this idiot go down on livestream(which is what got him in trouble in the first place, but I digress.)
I don’t see the case going international since not all countries share the British legal practice of closing courtrooms, gagging witnesses and concealing the identities of johns and cheaters as if they were rape victims and trafficked children. Can you imagine cheaters and johns in the US lining up for a class action in which their personal information would be plastered all over the tabloids? Heh, no.
As for the British practice, it’s so blatantly “old boys club” and geared to protect power since the Profumo scandal though it can have even darker ramifications than that. I’m still hoping the bereaved families of the infant victims of British serial killer nurse Lucy Letby manage to force the justice system to really open the case to public view and, in the process, expose the identity of the married doctor who fucked around with Letby and used his position to shield her from official scrutiny long enough to kill several more infants. While Mr. Litigious Cheaterpants in the UK whines about privacy, Letby’s victims’ families and Dr. Cheater X’s coworkers should be allowed to take him to the cleaners for favoritism related to workplace sexual misconduct that led him to behave as an accessory to murder.
Yes, what I’ve heard of the British system, I really disapprove of it. Also, the Brit Govt itself can actually gag the media on the grounds of national security. Personally I think ALL trials should be videotaped – not with these stupid damn drawings that aren’t even good! – and the tapes available for public viewing. Justice should be visible to everyone – and injustice even more so.
I agree, I think the jury is the issue to avoid retaliation against them, but there should be some way to resolve that.
Outstanding work from the UBT. Even just on the plane of the writing, the ironies that are embedded in the language are exquisite.Chef’s kiss.
Mwahahaha, this dipshit expects people to feel sorry for him? He’s delusional.
I could see my husband’s iphone texts on his ipad that he hid in the bottom left drawer in his bathroom. To this day he doesn’t know how I accessed his texts! Fun fact: in the sex worker industry, when he’d meet up with his Craigslist M2M hookups the practice seemed to be that he first had to send a highly compromising picture of himself — both so he could be recognized, and more importantly, to be compromised if he tried to dine-and-dash.
So there were some really interesting photos in there.
And I’m sure that really enhanced your respect for him, LOLOLOLOL. How they can do degrading shit like this…..I don’t know.
“He claims the company does not make it clear to customers that iMessages sent to another iPhone user can be seen on other linked Apple devices, even if they have been deleted on the phone.”
It does though. That’s what device-sharing is. Like…when you set up the device sharing and link devices like…that’s what it’s for. It explains that when you look at “device sharing” in settings it literally explains it right there. Not Apple’s fault he can’t read.
“I think what had been a superb marriage has been thrown away for something which many men do, and some women do, but mainly men”
I think this is a cheater-ism I hate the most. The assumption that men are monolithic, they all act this way, and wives just have to put up with it. The assertion that “boys will be boys” and women are the irrational ones for not keeping their heads down and allowing it. “I’m the normal one, it’s YOU who’s wrong! This is just a guy thing.”
No, actually, married men paying for sex workers isn’t just a thing they do that women have to accept. It’s not a normal course of marriage. And this dude who seems to think that every man thinks the same way as him needs to get hit in the face with a clue-by-4. There are plenty of men who would read that statement by him and would be offended and want to say “Excuse me, but I DON’T.” Anyone who tries to justify shitty behavior by trying to assert their gender is a monolith is an idiot.
My favorite saying, don’t know where I heard it:
“It’s called Karma and it is pronounced HAHAHAHAHA”.
Sounds like his friends and co-worker’s wives need some good lawyers too. After throwing them under the bus with his statements, I have a feeling ol Dick is going to be a very lonely boy.
True, but I wonder how much of that is true. Cheaters are famous for the “everyone else is doing it” childish excuse.
Either way, anyone whose husband or boyfriend knows him is likely seeing that statement and whether true or not, those friends and colleagues are no longer going to associate with him. So sad. Can you imagine coming home to find your spouse saw your coworker in the news and your marriage is now upside down even if you were completely onnocent?
Someone should tell Richard that he has a buddy on the other side of the pond. Goggle didn’t fully delete my FW’s dick pics and our 12-year-old found them. He had underage images in his dick pics, so the police found them very interesting as well. Mine says he’s going to sue the police because they lied about him when he was jailed ( FW claim “it’s just free pics from the web, what’s the big deal”). I guess no one suggested that he could sue Google as well. Who knew?
That’s interesting — when my daughter was in middle school she came to me and whispered “Daddy has pictures of penises on his desktop.”
Yes!
I also found a text message that my spouse had sent, it was from an entire year earlier, but he was caught unaware and fell apart when I asked him. He did full melt down of how he was going to kill himself, so much shame, yada yada.
Of course by the next day he was fully composed and the minimizing started. And yes, he is still alive.
I recently found the dating apps he had downloaded after the prostitute reveal. We have a legal separation in lieu of post-nup and had been going to marriage counseling. I found the apps just last week when I had to reboot my iPad after it was wiped by the Apple Store to fix a storage issue. To reload The New York Times, Netflix etc I had to go into settings and the young man showed me how to redownload the apps from the Family sharing section. They are listed by date. The day after our legal separation was filed he downloaded a dozen dating apps and anonymous meet ups, masked dating, dating 50+. Of course we were going to marriage counseling and continued to have sex. It was 10 months before he moved out and then initially vehemently denied he was dating. Of course, a week later he was seen by multiple mutual friends and work colleagues taking a woman to brunch and a Broadway matinee on Mothers Day. I had found the apps after he left and was openly dating. I guess those apps do work.
I had no idea that he was still lying to me.
i wish I could sleep as easily and as deeply as he lies
I live five minutes from Drivesavers, the most sophisticated data recovery organization on planet Earth. I had an employee whose wife worked for them. I took my iPhone there in 2009 when it fell in a pool for a split second and died.
When you walk in, the walls are lined with headshots of countless famous people from all over the world representing all kinds of professions, autographed with a proclamation of deep gratitude. There is also a very impressive display of devices they have recovered data from, mangled, burned, drowned, crushed, damaged in ways that most people would consider beyond recovery.
My visit there left me firmly believing that the best way to use tech is to act as if everyone will see what you put out there and that it is out there forever. A good way to live life anyways.
Did anyone watch the most recent Apple wwdc?
They are adding features in the next iOS to not only lock apps, but also keep them invisibly hidden.
I struggle to think of a legitimate use for this feature.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/06/10/ios-18-will-let-you-hide-and-lock-apps/
I think it would be nice for bank/financial aps. But yeah I can see where it would benefit cheaters/liars. But they manage to do it even without hiding it.
I hope a judge dismisses the case and makes this FW pay all court costs! And I hope his ex wife is enjoying life with her more than five million pound settlement!
Awww. Bless his heart.
Must suck to feel so betrayed… and by his own devices both literally and figuratively.
Must also suck to pay the 5 million pounds of consequences of being an entitled asshat.
And also awww the poor dear is on Beta Blockers for the stress! Let’s hope they comingle with the Viagra and make his dick unresponsive to any action in perpetuity.
No mention of the stress he caused his wife. Or kids. LOL at his concept of the “superb” marriage SHE threw away. How dare she decide to act in her own interests and protect her health and wellbeing. To think she should have a say in anything relating to marriage or the family and how especially DARE she rely on and believe in the wedding vows or monogamy.
This is all Steve Jobs’ fault for creating a Unicorn tech company in the first place.
My FW gave me her phone, when she had to run to the restroom. She’d said she wanted a divorce 2 months earlier, and I had a suspicion she was lying to me about wanting to be amicable on our custody agreement. I checked messages, and found she was lying to me all right, just not about what I thought she was.
Of course I got the “you invaded my privacy, you are the bad one”. Crazy how their minds work
I know that trying to understand a FW is an exercise in futility but I still can’t help but wonder if this guy TRULY believes that it’s Apple’s fault his marriage is over.
He’s out a lot of $ due to the divorce, We live in a sue happy world. I’m just curious if he saw an opportunity to recoup some money, or if he really and truly thinks his divorce is Apple’s fault for having technology that allowed him to get caught vs the fact that HE CHEATED on his wife.
I’ve mostly given up trying to figure out my FW, but occasionally I do wonder what his actual thoughts are on certain things. He had a very long affair, it went on for years before and after DDay. But when we actually separated, he blamed ME. He said I was throwing away decades of marriage over “a mistake” (singular) he made. To be clear, he never once suggested we not separate until the very end when it was actually happening, and they had broken up. (I’m pretty sure she dumped him, he says it’s the other way around but I don’t believe it for a minute)
Does it matter what he actually thinks? No. It wouldn’t change my mind about getting out. But I am still sometimes curious if he REALLY believes that this was MY doing, MY choice or if that was just him grasping at any possible way to reconcile so he wouldn’t be alone.
I guess that, for their next trick, some Cheater will plan on suing Google for all of those times that they didn’t delete their search history and it bit them on the bum.
In Ex-Mrs LFTT’s case, her failure to delete such pearls as “How to have an affair and get away with it?” and “What should a woman in her 40’s wear on a first date?” from an iPad that the kids also used were not – shall we say – events that she cares to be reminded of.
That the iPad was also synched to her iPhone, allowing the kids to see the texts that she was sending her AP was just the icing on the cake.
LFTT
“He told The Times: “If you are told a message is deleted you are entitled to believe it’s deleted. “
Im fascinated by his assertion of what he is “entitled” to. Makes me wonder why his former wife wasn’t “entitled” to the truth.
My betrayal was in the early 2000s before much of the current tech. My betrayer mostly used email vs messages or texts.
One line he threw at me was “You want a guarantee and life doesnt give you guarantees”. My argument was that making a covenantal promise in a church is the closest thing to a guarantee that 2 people can commit to…its so important that many people are invited to witness it, your grandma wears chiffon and it is followed by a celebration … weddings have been part of the human experience for thousands of years…its a big deal because the promise being made is a big deal…a literal guarantee that people promise each other.
To the newbies…Ive been away dealing with a life crisis which my subsequent husband (the one who followed the betrayer) willingly went through with me. He is my rock and took each step of the emergency being steady emotionally and logistically. Im not saying that you have to repartner to be valid (you are enough on your own) but there are a few good ones out there.
I wonder if Apple will admit that within the last two years, the modified the face-app ability to open a phone to only work if the owner’s EYES WERE OPEN.
Yeah, that really happened.
Because I discovered my FW’s infidelity by opening his iPhone when he was asleep.
Try opening your iPhone with your eyes closed now…doesn’t work.
Me thinks that some programmers at Apple had hard divorces…
Almost exact same story as mine. Except my eX did not even bother to try to delete many of his iphone texts to prostitutes. But there they were, on his synced ipad! Thanks Apple Inc. for revealing, on my D-day, what my reality actually was.
My brother’s best friend was caught cheating just like this. His ex-wife was on vacation with her family, and he stayed home because he had to work. Their devices were synced, and all of his Grindr messages appeared. She filed for divorce as soon as she got home. No children, no property uncontested, and they had a prenup because his parents insisted, so as far as the proceeding went, it was pretty straightforward and over quickly she moved on and his best friend is miserable and single.
My brother was upset because he didn’t understand how his best friend could keep such a secret from him. He thought they were marriage goals, and he was upset that he would cheat on his wife without telling him… He has since done an about-face and blames her for filing divorce doesn’t understand why they all can’t be friends anymore.
Long story short cheaters suck