The Amy Robach and TJ Holmes Podcast
I’m sorry to tell you Amy Robach and TJ Holmes have a new podcast. You know the Schmoopies who got shit-canned from their ABC News Good Morning America jobs because of their workplace affair.
Don’t you have something better to write about, Tracy?
Twu wuv now streaming…
I’m sorry. A bunch of you have sent me the breathless People magazine articles. YOU MUST KNOW ABOUT THEIR COMPLICATED LOVE RHOMBUS. The media has been so cruel to them… Amy and TJ can only respond via syndicated broadcasting. In serial episodes. Hey, at least it’s audio. You can’t see the dry humping.
But you can imagine it! Check out the intro to “Amy & TJ”. (Yes, an ampersand. Like initials carved into a tree trunk. Or your brain.)
Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes are back. Together again. Together like never before. And for the first time, ready to share the story behind the headlines.
Amy & TJ
TOGETHER. Did you get that? It bears repeating, lest you thirsty interns get the wrong idea. TJ belongs to Amy. Like NEVER BEFORE. His dick may have wandered for others, but NOT Amy.
I’m sure you’ve been anxiously awaiting news of this blessed union.
Only now are they ready to share the story… of perfidy and a sexualized work environment? No! Of heartbreak for their chumped spouses Andrew Shue and Marilee Fiebig? No! How this has been the hardest year in Amy’s life.
Her workplace affair hurts her too. More really.
“I just didn’t want to get up. I didn’t want to see what new headline was going to be out there,” Robach revealed in the debut episode of her and Holmes’ ‘Amy and TJ Podcast’
But she soldiered on. When Amy thought of how to spin this colossal belly flop of bad life choices into a more pleasing narrative, she was inspired by the suffering of others.
“I think it’s another reminder we did this for a living. We interviewed people who were at their worst moments or had had the most unimaginable things happen to them,” she said, adding that “you can’t imagine what it feels like until the tables are turned — and we experienced it.”
Now it’s us interviewing us about the most unimaginable things!
The important thing the Amy Robach and TJ Holmes podcast wants you to know is…
This was NOT an affair.
They were fired BECAUSE THEY LOVE EACH OTHER.
Robach and Holmes first announced Amy and T.J. Podcast in November, about a year after their romance first went public when photos were published showing them cozying up together. At the time, the couple had not yet announced their separations from their spouses, Robach from actor Andrew Shue and Holmes from attorney Marilee Fiebig.
Also in the debut episode, Holmes denied she and Holmes ever had an affair, explaining that they “were in the middle of divorces” at the time.
Added Holmes, “To be clear, we were outed as being in a relationship, but everyone else thought we were being outed as adulterers — being outed as cheating on our spouses — and it wasn’t the case because the odd thing is, the day those pictures were taken and the day that article was released, we both at that point were in divorce proceedings.”
Yes, they were having a consensual workplace relationship they just hadn’t told anyone about, including immediate family, while coincidentally going through simultaneous divorces that had nothing to do with being co-workers!
You know how that goes. Hanging around the water cooler, T.J.: “Hey, I’m separated!” Amy: “No kidding? I’m separated too!” T.J.: “Want to go canoodle upstate?” Amy: “Sure! I’ll check my calendar!”
Insiders insisted to us that the alleged affair was a major factor for the pair’s respective divorces, “no matter how they try to spin it,” as one person put it.
For example, sources said, it’s no coincidence that Robach, 50, posted photos with Shue on vacation in Greece in July 2022, three months before her relationship with Holmes was exposed.
And as for Holmes, sources told us he and Fiebig were still “very much together” when they celebrated his birthday in the Bahamas that August.
In fact, we’re told, it was there that she found a “not professional” birthday card from Robach that addressed him as “my love.”
Hey, it could’ve been a platonic workplace spouse kinda “my love.” The sort human resource departments don’t understand. You know why ABC fires people after internal investigations? LOVE, that’s why.
“We’re the folks who lost the jobs we love because we love each other.”
TJ Holmes
Okay, so what if T.J. loved his co-anchor Robach, producer Natasha Singh and at least one other staffer? Love is love is love and it’s messy!
Sometimes it’s so messy you have to do a welfare check on T.J.
“You were just splayed out on your bed. I ran to you and said, ‘T.J.,’ and you didn’t move,” Robach remembered. “It was the most awful thing having to touch your body and see if you were warm. I was so afraid. You were just incoherent.”
“That day was essentially me getting off work and pounding vodka,” Holmes explained. “I didn’t stop for several hours and took who knows how many weed edibles.”
A man who self-medicates with pussy, vodka and pot sounds like solid partner material. #somuchmessy
Said Robach: “Relationships are hard, they’re messy, they’re not perfect. We have fought for love, and I can say I have never been happier. I am with my best friend.”
“A lot of you understand that life, love, marriage, relationships can be messy and usually are,” said Holmes.
Speaking of messy love rhombuses, their exes Andrew Shue and Marilee Fiebig are reportedly dating each other. How very Shania Twain. Personally, I wouldn’t want to be in the orbit of either ex, but if it works for them, I’m all for chump love.
Just please don’t start a podcast.
I’d love to see the metrics on this! I’m on pins and needles over here to hear what they are going to talk about next! Funny how it’s a podcast and you don’t see them they do everything to have people look at them
Maybe they’ll just interview other famous cheater couples? Although, I had no idea who these people were until this article…
Yes but visual media costs a lot more, and they don’t have anyone to pay for it now. They certainly are not going to invest their own money in themselves; even they know better than that.
Man, this definitely goes in the “You can’t make this shit up” category of pure stupidity and fuckedupness. May the force of idiocy always be in their favor!
These disordered people really are beyond the pale. Here in England, having to endure reporting on evidence given by serial adulterer to the Covid enquiry. There is no point expecting these types to have any self-awareness. Having expectations dooms us to disappointment.
How could I miss out the name of the serial adulterer: Boris Johnson, of course. Or, to be accurate, The Right Honourable, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.
Ah, old Bazza! Boris the Buffoon! Boris the Baboon!
How he ever managed to pull a bird, never mind cheat on anyone, is beyond me!
WHAT do they see in him at all?
I call him Boris the Whoris.
😂
I can honestly say that I find it impossible to give a flying Philadelphia toss about what these two self-absorbed privileged fuckwits do, either on or off air. The ” beautiful people” and the uber rich have always had their own set of twisted rules and rituals for mating..Semper idem.
I literally have never even heard of these people until today and question why they’d think anybody gives a shit about their dumpster fire personal lives.
I just found out recently that my ex and the whore-stress tried to tell folks they never had sex until after fw and I split. Such a blatant lie that I can only imagine they were laughed at.
First of all he had already confessed to me he had been sleeping with her, hell he even told me about their “first time” in the back of his squad car. Swoon…🤮
He said for three years, but I assume that was a lie and it was more like 6 to ten. It is even possible that her at the time of exposure, ten year old kid was his. That would explain a lot of missing money.
FW tried to make out he’d only started seeing his little slapper AFTER I’d chucked him out! Yeah, right! “What was I supposed to DOOOO?” he wailed!
He’s probably told people that or some other bull’s crawn, and I know full well it’ll be all MY fault whatever he tells them but, I just don’t care what any of them think, because no one he’d talk to about it is in any way significant to me!
Anyway, the truth always comes out in the end!
🤮 they really have no shame
He loved her for her mind, Susie.
The ex’s husband has a podcast, he uses it for part of his “employment” because he’s not good at selling enough insurance to pay the bills.
“You can’t imagine what it feels like until the tables are turned ….”
Sure you can, it’s called “empathy.”
empathy (n.) (from the Greek, empatheia): the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.
example: “Amy and T.J. were able to commit terrible acts of infidelity against their spouses because they had a complete lack of empathy.”
Weird how they demand empathy while giving none.
She’ll find out what it’s like when the tables are turned when he starts cheating on her.
She’ll be sO sHoCkEd when he does, too.
Running off his mouth, just to run around the subject in one gigantic run on sentence.
Added Holmes, “To be clear, we were outed as being in a relationship, but everyone else thought we were being outed as adulterers — being outed as cheating on our spouses — and it wasn’t the case because the odd thing is, the day those pictures were taken and the day that article was released, we both at that point were in divorce proceedings.”
“Yeah, we just had a RELATIONSHIP while married to other people. We never did the horizontal hula. Ick. We were *married* (to other people) for chrissakes! We have standards and morals, see?!”
“To be clear, I am a sociopath and I think everyone listening to/reading this interview is a complete fucking moron.” ftfy, TJ. You’re welcome.
So going down my “cheater thinking error” checklist:
-Inappropriate boundaries with somebody other than their actual significant other? Check.
-“The relationship was actually already over and I was doing nothing wrong”? Check.
-Mysteriously in way too deep with another relationship when they should be working on themselves? Check.
-“See, the real story is…”? Check.
-Excessive image management when formally called out(“fired from very public jobs”)? Check.
-Downplaying crime against humanity “done of out love”? Check.
-Double talk/double think on the “collateral damage”(see above item)? Check.
I don’t watch TV and have no idea who these villains are.
It terrifies me that somebody somewhere will see all of their damage control and think that what they did is in any way acceptable. By all means: go be happy. Wish I could be happy again yet, too! But holy shit, observe the lines! I am excited for the follow-up article down the line where that spectacularly implodes when the newness wears off(lest it quietly fizzles while they both disappear long enough for everybody else to forget…but we will remember.)
Yeah- way to glorify betrayal, skanking around and lying.
Great people…
And it will end badly because how could they trust each other?
They’re very typical cheaters. We’ve heard/read this story SO MANY TIMES, even with all these particulars. It shows both how rote cheating tends to be and how they’re driven by the same motivations to have the affair and hide it.
The sneaking and exploiting their marriages was the exciting part. Now that they are “free” to be together, how long do you think it will actually last?
If you look at public polls and downloads for Shakira’s Session #53, it seems pretty clear the media’s manic wag-the-dog campaign to make cheating “acceptable” isn’t really catching on.
I’ve written about this before because many chumps have been disheartened by the idea that the media blitz reflects an actual rise in “infidelity tolerance.” Meanwhile, statistics tell a different story. For instance, Gallup polls over the last twenty years show that, even as public acceptance for gay marriage and single parenting continues to rise, public acceptance of infidelity continues to bottom out. It suggests that views of infidelity are separate from “puritanical” religious mores (as the NY Times tried to argue) and may have more to do with increasing awareness of the negative social impact of emotional abuse in families.
This is what makes me suspect that the current frenzied pro-cheating campaign relates to every major media company cross-investing in streaming porn (Google alone invested $3.4 billion in 2017) and online dating sites. The latter are industries for which market growth is arguably tied to infidelity once the market of single users maxes out. Also it’s not like the media industry that was heavily impacted by #MeToo can openly promote acceptance for rape and workplace harassment so I think the campaign to whittle away at concepts of monogamy may be an indirect attempt to soften up public concepts of sexual consent. The latter is also a huge issue for the porn industry which faces divestment due to wide reports of sex trafficking, violence, coercion, underage victims and dead porn performers.
Anyway, I don’t think there’s been any real increase in public “infidelity tolerance” other than the usual whippersnapper antiestablishment trends which likely won’t last once that generation discovers that nonconsensual nonmonogamy can happen even in open and nonbinary relationships, that cheaters rarely use protection and STDs are becoming antibiotic resistant, that cheating invariably comes with extreme emotional abuse and financial abuse and the latter will be even more devastating in failing economies.
Of course. The pain is universal.
I’m a nonbinary chump (although monogamous) and while I did have to explain to poly friend once what the appeal of monogamy is (she was very empathetic, non-judgmental about it, and even said she understood my POV afterwards), said friend was immediately sobered upon hearing that my ex-fiancé cheated on me. While non-chumps may not understand all the ins and outs of the abuse, everyone can understand how painful deceit and betrayal is, no matter if they’re poly or mono.
While I’ve had to deal with a few “cheating isn’t that big of a deal” shenanigans, no one in my close circle ever held that attitude, and I’d bet the idea that the culture at large accepts it is more a reflection of current pop media, rather than any actual average joe belief.
Thanks for lending perspective. Interesting that I see more cheating apologism and chump/victim-blaming among super rich nepo acquaintances (my code for the cousins I can’t stand) than among poly friends. But I think it probably ties in to how extreme wealth intensifies misogyny in some ways. For instance, it’s typical for men born on third base to marry the intelligent, educated, good-looking broodmare to produce the requisite intelligent, good-looking heirs and then trade her in for a series of less challenging trophies. I guess it’s “posh” to act blase about the practice but the kids coming out of these dynamics are generally effed up so I don’t share the stylish acceptance.
I also find it interesting that my teen daughter’s nonbinary bestie is the one who’s super down on cheating since the latter’s mother chumped their dad.
Oh no, nepo cousins! I don’t have too much experience in such areas, but I know very much of the sort of pathology you speak of. I’ve always wondered if it’s some sort of upper-class desire to be “avant-garde” or “counterculture” when reading the articles that claim affairs are “healing” or “rebellious” or whatnot. Like… some wealthy hipster idea of being so above those uncultured plebians (with their low-class ideas, like empathy and boundaries!). But you’re right, when it comes to the (one-way) acceptance of a wealthy older man taking in younger partners, it’s really just misogyny.
I’m sorry to hear about your daughter’s best friend. I hope they’re doing okay. I don’t blame them one bit, I’m sure being caught in the midde is a hellish position to be in.
Hollywood and the media in general have always been HEAVILY pro cheating or at least excused it over and over again. I’m thinking of things they did even 80 years ago like the noxious “The Philadelphia Story” where Katherine Hepburn is the real villain for being mean to her adulterous old father and where she takes up again with Cary Grant while planning to marry another guy (don’t know if cheating was supposedly involved in that relationship but it’s the whole “make-up at any cost because it’s tru wuv” trope. FORGIVE, DAMN YOU!). They’ve been peddling this shit for decades because so many of THEM were and are adulterers and abusers of women and kids. And sometimes gay men. People don’t generally give a shit if you’re gay – that’s your private business….but cheating devastates a spouse and kids and hurts the whole society and we have all seen it with ourselves or people we know. It’s an inherently hurtful and destructive thing based on lies and bad behavior. Nothing can whitewash that pig.
Cheaters, like pedophiles, seem quasi-cultish in trying to proselytize their ethical choices and creepy lifestyles. Deep down, they just want everyone to accept and embrace their vicious predilections. They can’t pass up an opportunity to try to sell their bs rationalizations and victim blaming. For instance, I nearly gagged when I saw the film American Beauty back in the day because it was sort of three pronged peddling of adultery AND pedophilia AND rabid misogyny (can’t understand why Annette Benning ever agreed to sign on for that thankless bitch wife role). But, at the same time, I wasn’t particularly surprised because American Beauty was a “passion project” for Kevin Spacey whom everyone in NY and LA at the time knew had a habit of sexually harassing completely unwilling young guys he worked with (go figure– particularly straight, rather homely young guys with zero interest in experimenting).
Most rapists would rather exert influence and use subtle intimidation than exert themselves in violent attacks so the phenomenon of creeps proselytizing their predilections makes twisted sense.
Gurl, it will be. Just wait until he brings you an STD.
Snicker!
Said Robach: “Relationships are hard, they’re messy, they’re not perfect. We have fought for love, and I can say I have never been happier. I am with my best friend.”
“A lot of you understand that life, love, marriage, relationships can be messy and usually are,” said Holmes.
Hahaha wow.
Her: omg true love cannot be denied, it is fate! We are destined to be together and so happy!
Him: I’m a mess. “A lot of you” (former Schmoopies? Harassees? Betrayed wives?) know all about how this goes…
Yeah this is gonna be great. 👍 Solid choice, you two.
Jesus, even look at their picture that they took specifically for their twu wuv podcast. He’s not even looking at her but off at the horizon. Like “how am I still here? If only I hadn’t eaten all those gummies and passed out…”
Wow, those are some really expensive dental veneers. They paid for that shit out of pocket so they grin extra hard like someone’s shoving a gun in their ribs and ordering them to smile. But nothing bespeaks economic desperation more than the need to show off and make the most of the crap one pays for to appear wealthy and elite. So my guess is the podcast is a desperate bid to audition for sponsorship because their behavior has cost them dearly.
Added Holmes, “To be clear, we were outed as being in a relationship, but everyone else thought we were being outed as adulterers — being outed as cheating on our spouses — and it wasn’t the case because the odd thing is, the day those pictures were taken and the day that article was released, we both at that point were in divorce proceedings.”
The expression, “don’t piss on my leg and try to tell me it’s raining” comes to mind. I’m sorry you dealt with this inept gaslighty mind-fuck, Marilee Fiebig.
Not sure but maybe the attempt to post-date the affair may have been partly a legal and financial maneuver? While NY, where the brave and graceful Marilee Fiebig lived during her D-day, is where justice goes to die, where settlement and custody policies have been massaged to favor rich abusers and where there’s little recourse for chumps. I might be wrong but it seems Andrew Shue was living in Delaware where it’s possible to choose fault and no-fault and where adultery can reportedly be penalized. It appears that Shue has been very skilled with money over the years and is worth a fortune. Robach may have been angling for a bit more from the settlement than joint custody of the family dog.
“The day those pictures were taken and the day that article was released was the first day we had ever canoodled at all! NOTHING happened before that day!”
Sure, Jan.
They sound like a remarkably typical pair of adulterous assholes. Except for having a podcast.
“And now, ladies and gentlemen, in the center ring…. Amy and TJ! Witness the daring act of cheating and abandoning their families…. Watch as they risk everything for one last shot at fame and fortune! See their glorious and logic-defying explanations of twu-wuv as they douse themselves in kerosene and play with lit matches!”
The crowd draws closer, only mildly interested, (reverberations of the words “a couple of grifters” floating through their minds), and waits for the crucial moment. Will they do it? Do they trust each other enough with those lit matches? Or at the final instant will TJ or Amy realize their mistake and burn the other one alive?
Doesn’t matter, I suppose. Their act is done ten thousand times a day by cheaters all over the globe. I would only pay for a ticket to watch Marilee and Andrew shove TJ and Amy’s heads into the mouths of lions.
Just a little taste of heaven for self centered lovers. These two might be worth watching and learning how narcissists work their magic on each other and their chumps. As a lesson. I really not happy to give them kibbles here on CN but i think I need to trust that these folks are disordered
They can’t be begged, pleaded with, cried over, lectured, threatened, bled in front of, silent treatment, or tortured, give them more and better sex, cook their favorite lemon chicken..They..Do. NOT.CARE and you will never keep them in a pen.Once that got through my head into my chumpy heart,❤️ i could leave and go no contact. Watch, listen, learn.
Yeah, dating the ex of the AP is a bit much. I wouldn’t want anything to do with the AP’s world.
These schmoopies are gross and exhibitionistic.
I get that I’m not meant to understand the disordered, but I’m still baffled that someone could write out all this drama and not have a speck of embarrassment about it. Betraying families, suicidal ideation (and attempts? who knows?), alcohol and drug abuse, like do these people hear themselves talk? I’m astonished they think we’re supposed to feel sorry for them.
IMO they’re exhibitionists. Airing their dirty laundry is pleasurable to them. They tell themselves they are brave for doing so.
Yup. It’s shocking to me how perpetrators want everyone to think they’ve been victimized while real victims never do.
Perhaps this is not politically correct (s) and I’m terribly old-fashioned, but, I think I remember a time when it was normal for people to feel deep embarrassment and– gasp–!! shame— when caught “having an affair” and cheating on their marriage partner. They would be afraid of experiencing the disapproval of society. It’s supposed to be a terribly shameful and embarrassing thing, with feelings of guilt, yet with the celebrities at least, they are now boasting of it and celebrating themselves. I don’t get it.
Does it matter when these kinds of selfish life choices invariably lead to misery? I wish human beings were only ashamed in the right way– ashamed of being cruel, self-centered, grossly callous, etc. But along with the social strictures of yore came a lot of racism and bigotry and class exclusion that shamed a lot of underdogs for no good reason. Consequently, I’m a bit on the fence in terms of grieving the modern reduction in social shame.
But back to the issue of how selfish choices tend to lead to private misery, rest assured that there’s still a price for “sin.” They can clog their social media feeds with all the happy-togetherness image-managing pix they want but we all know they’re curdling and withering behind the scenes from their own creepy, mutual dysfunction.
That’s not incorrect, politically or otherwise. People should be ashamed of cheating. The thing is, cheaters do not experience the shame and guilt over bad behavior that we would.
There also used to be a time when people kept their private lives under wraps, but social media made everybody think they need to make their drama front page news.
I’d be buried six feet under before I literally told billions of people about any struggles I was having with my mental health or interpersonal relationships, let alone bragged about my terrible decision making.
These people have no clue how irresponsible and out of touch they sound.
How very Melrose Place this sounds…
Maybe that’s why Andrew Shue and his kids conducted themselves with humor and grace. He was already familiar with the cheesy, generic plot line his ex was playing out.
Cheaters get a thrill out of lying and deception. They no longer have other partners tio lie to, so they’re doing it on a bigger scale, to the public.
TJ and Amy: laughing at (word) salad.