My Wife Cheated and I’m Stuck Blaming Myself

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His wife cheated and he’s stuck in a loop, blaming himself instead of leaving her. Why is he stuck in limbo when she hasn’t even apologized?

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Dear Chump Lady,

About 3 months ago I caught my wife in a lie about her whereabouts. She said was at a Halloween party with friends, when the location sharing she enabled on our phones gave away her true location. (Nowhere near the mentioned party.)

Fast forward about two weeks, and the same thing would happen repeatedly.

My suspicions grew and my nervous system felt like someone lit it on fire.

Without going into every single detail, I found out whose house she was going to. She was using an elaborate method of hiding it by parking her car in a different neighborhood, turning off her location, then riding with the other man to his house.

However, one day, she forgot to hide that, which led me to gathering enough evidence to confront her. I felt like I was trickle-truthed until I showed her I knew who lived at the address she kept going to.

Eventually, she owned up to the lies, but she said nothing intimate happened.

I naively tried to believe that. But feel I feel like it doesn’t matter. Why would she go to such lengths to hide whatever she was doing? It’s not something someone who isn’t cheating would do, right?

In fact, she didn’t even think what she did was wrong or that it was infidelity. She said she just didn’t want me to be mad about where she was. In spite of her knowing that I would be upset about the lies if I found out.

She admitted she had feelings for this man after I had asked a few days later.

She has barely apologized. Many conversations later, she was still hanging out with this guy, just “not at his house.” And she hasn’t put any effort into working on our marriage. I made it a point for us to try and spend time together, to work on us. But instead, she spends more time hanging out with her friends (of which this guy is one).

We haven’t started marriage counseling because I’m doubtful it will actually fix the problem. When we spend time together, it feels awkward, and I’m sure she is still with this guy, but goes to even greater lengths to hide whatever’s going on.

I don’t understand why I feel stuck with not being able to end my marriage.

(I’m 30 and we’ve only been married for 5 years). Despite what has happened and my wife’s lack of repair effort, I feel like I’m stuck in a loop of blaming myself. I rationalize and intellectualize her behavior instead of respecting myself. Frequently, I think it isn’t actually as bad as it could be and maybe I’m just overreacting?

Am I just crazy?

Am I just in denial when she said nothing “intimate” happened between her and this other person? Or am I just stuck in the same loop so many people get stuck in where they see the exit but can’t seem to make the move to walk right on out? Could she be manipulating me, where I’m just being taken advantage of through subtle means?

I’ve left out a lot of details for the sake of keeping this brief. I am in therapy actively working on myself so I can unlearn some of my bad habits, but think at this point I probably need blunt advice. I just found your blog today and think I am slowly coming around to the idea that I am probably better off leaving my marriage sooner rather than later.

Shattered_Skies

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Dear Shattered Skies,

You wrote to the “Leave a Cheater” lady, so you probably know what my blunt-shovel-upside-your-head advice is going to say.

Go. You have nothing to work with.

She’s not sorry, transparent, or invested. I’m skeptical about reconciliation, but you at least need the raw materials. You have none. Instead, I’d say you have a coward, but it’s worse than that — you have a cake eater. Her behavior says she wants both the security of what you’re providing, plus the excitement of dating (screwing, holding hands and chastely watching Little House on the Prairie or whatever they’re up to). All at your expense. Because that works for her.

Your pain is not part of her calculus.

But your paralysis and disorientation are. Sure, Chump-o, book that therapy appointment. Go work on your faults. Chase down every lead on where she is. Stick your head in the mindf*ck blender. Then do it again. Collapse in exhaustion.

No biggie to her, she’s got a party to attend and you’re not invited.

I found out whose house she was going to. She was using an elaborate method of hiding it by parking her car in a different neighborhood, turning off her location, then riding with the other man to his house.

What’s the most likely explanation for this behavior: Is she a spy? An undercover FBI informant? Or is she a cheater?

Does anyone innocently behave this way? You are not her jailer. Or the mean, mean parent issuing a curfew. But she’s casting you in that role — an oppressor to rebel against. You, with your mean, mean requests that she be transparent. Or act with consideration. How unreasonable of you to insist that she not date other men while married to you.

However, one day, she forgot to hide that, which led me to gathering enough evidence to confront her. I felt like I was trickle-truthed until I showed her I knew who lived at the address she kept going to.

There is no such thing as ‘trickle truth’.

Call it what it is: further lying.

Trickle truth is some Reconciliation Industrial Complex bullshit to reframe continual lying as timid, but incomplete, truth telling. Oh, the poor sausage is trying! But the SHAME!

No. She knows exactly what she’s up to, but telling you would disturb the power imbalance that is currently in her favor. So why would she do that?

In fact, she didn’t even think what she did was wrong or that it was infidelity. She said she just didn’t want me to be mad about where she was. In spite of her knowing that I would be upset about the lies if I found out.

She’s blameshifting. The problem isn’t what she’s doing, it’s your reaction to it. And even your potential reaction. You’re the controlling ogre, she’s the timid forest creature. Next, she’s trying to move the battleground to defining infidelity. Refuse to engage.

You know enough.

You know that she unilaterally changed the terms of your marriage to behave like a single person. Whether she gets to first base, third base, or they’re watching Mary go blind from Scarlet fever while knitting potholders for the church bazaar — she’s checked out with another man. And doesn’t care how you feel about it.

I don’t understand why I feel stuck with not being able to end my marriage.

(I’m 30 and we’ve only been married for 5 years). Despite what has happened and my wife’s lack of repair effort, I feel like I’m stuck in a loop of blaming myself. I rationalize and intellectualize her behavior instead of respecting myself. Frequently, I think it isn’t actually as bad as it could be and maybe I’m just overreacting?

You’re not overreacting, you’re in the bargaining stage of grief. Betrayal is traumatic. You thought you were in a committed relationship and had a future with your wife. Bonding is what normal, loving humans do. And now, abruptly, and painfully, you have to un-bond.

One way we chumps cope with that is by untangling the skein, or as you say, getting stuck in a loop of blaming yourself for your wife’s affair. We try to decode our cheaters, and decode ourselves to figure out where it all went wrong — instead of doing the critical job of self-protection.

She is HURTING you. GET OUT.

This person is not your friend. I’m sorry, because I know it hurts like a mofo, but you can sort out your feelings later. Right now, you need to sort out your finances and living situation. Talk to an attorney, freeze your credit, and do all the things people who end marriages do. You’re not being hasty or unkind. She unilaterally changed the terms of the relationship to act single. You are just mirroring that. You are living in the reality SHE created. Single people are not financially vulnerable to each other. They don’t share a bed.

She won’t stop the cake-eating. You must stop allowing it.

Is that fair? No, of course it isn’t. But we’ve all survived it and you will too.

You’re not crazy, you’re heartbroken. The good news is you have a heart to break. You loved with your whole self and invested faithfully, and those are beautiful qualities. Sure, work on your faults, but don’t lose sight of why this relationship is broken. She broke it. We don’t control other people. There’s no loving someone without that terrifying vulnerability. Fixing your faults doesn’t control her investment in you.

Your devotion is a GIFT. She’s not entitled to it. Invest your energies in people who reciprocate and treat your heart gently. But right now, focus on getting free and investing in yourself. That pays dividends. Further fealty to a cheater, not so much.

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CountryChumpkin
CountryChumpkin
4 hours ago

Shattered, why do you consider for one hot second that she might be telling the truth when she says she isn’t intimate with this guy? She’s already shown you she’s a liar. Nobody reading this believes she isn’t screwing this guy.
You know who he is – that’s awesome. Your attorney can depose him and he can detail exactly what he did with your wife under oath.
You have a chance to get away before you’ve been married twenty years and have kids forever saddled with a FW for a parent. Seize it.

thumper
thumper
4 hours ago

I’m hearing no mention of children & Hallelujah! Stop being intimate with her before you end up with an anchor baby or STD. You are young, there are probably few marital assets to split. You get a clean break and new start in your life. Take it!

LookingForwardsToTuesday
LookingForwardsToTuesday
4 hours ago

Shattered_Skies,

Your wife has given herself permission to repeatedly do things that harm your marriage and harm you. She also shows no concern or remorse about the impact that her actions have had and continue to have. None of this is your fault; it is as a result of her unilateral choices. So, you should prioritise yourself; get out, get a divorce and build a better future for yourself. Invest your time and energy in yourself and, when the time is right (and if you choose), in someone who is deserving of you and who can put your interests ahead of their own once in a while.

Doing this will take time and effort and will be painful at times, but a better future – a future free of your Cheater – is possible if you set your mind to it. The longest (and hardest) journeys start with a single step.

LFTT

GoodFriend
GoodFriend
3 hours ago

Shattered, I’m glad you found this site and I urge you to get the book and read the archives.

She schemed to hide her location, going as far as to park her car in another neighborhood so he could drive her to his house.

What’s there that they couldn’t find elsewhere? Why didn’t they come to YOUR house or talk on the phone if they were just having conversations?

Almost certainly because they wanted a bed and privacy. If she’s not going to his house now that you outed her, they’re probably going to a hotel, friend’s house or someplace else. For sex.

As you read the archives and open your eyes, you’ll probably see her previous actions in a fresh light, and possibly discover some unfavorable truths about your wife.

She deliberately plotted at length to deceive you about this location and this person.

Keep quiet about your intentions, and be just as deliberate with your exit strategy.

Good luck!

ISawTheLight
ISawTheLight
3 hours ago

Yeah, so um…”having feelings for” is code for screwing, and “not at his house” is a lie. “Spending time with friends” means one-on-one dates (You know, when they say, “I’m going out with friends” and then all of the other friends miraculously “can’t make it” except AP).

At least, that’s what it was when my FW said those things to me.

Don’t waste ANOTHER 5 years like I did (I had already invested almost 15 years and we had a kid – you don’t, so there’s literally no reason to try to stay). Get out. Your hurt will heal, your heart will recover. Don’t spend any more time on someone who lies to you and shows utter disregard for your feelings.

Velvet Hammer
Velvet Hammer
3 hours ago

No one causes, cures, or controls the behavior of another person. But it’s the natural first stop for almost everyone after being hit by infidelity freight train. 😪

My former fake husband and I were in therapy, at my request, as preventive maintenance, to learn healthy long-term committed relationship skills, on a frequent regular basis, the entire 27 YEARS I was with him. Both of us came from seriously effed up families and I did not want to repeat what was modeled to us.

I found out in YEAR 27 he had been lying and keeping secrets THE ENTIRE TIME.

IMHO, going to therapy after finding out your spouse HAS BEEN LYING TO YOU is like calling the fire department AFTER your so-called intimate partner has intentionally burned the house to the ground.

THERE IS NO TRUST AND SAFETY WITH A PERSON WHO DOES THAT. Which are the two ESSENTIAL, NON-NEGOTIABLE characteristics of a healthy relationship.

I would now NEVER advocate anyone staying.

My sincere condolences. Please keep coming here and reading.

♥️

Velvet Hammer
Velvet Hammer
3 hours ago
Reply to  Velvet Hammer

The time I spent in therapy was NOT wasted. I participated sincerely and learned a ton….and my beloved therapist, who was also lied to, became an invaluable living record of what actually happened after Fake Husband began his campaign of rewriting history, another behavior typical of TLC’s (traitorous lying cheaters).

unicornomore
unicornomore
3 hours ago

When I was in the stage that you are in right now, I found that I suffered from a situation of unrealistic expectations. Every Hollywood tale of betrayal had a specific path: the cheater was confronted whereupon they said 1) Im sorry 2) I love you 3) Ive never done this before andI will never do this again.

My Cheater didnt seem to enjoy lying as much as Ive seen here, he seemed to do it just enough to get away with his cheating.

I kept expecting him to say these aforementioned things…I opened the subject over and over thinking that he would say what I expected him to and he never did. HIs response was “I wont apologize for falling in love and I never loved you like I love her”, he never said it was his first rodeo and he never promised to not do it again.

It took a long time for me to connect the dots of what I was seeking and what it meant that he was not telling me what I wanted/needed to hear. I wanted to hear true contrition and start healing. He wasn’t ready to give up cake.

I ate shit for a long time and never had anything resembling a loving relationship with him after that (or really before that either). I was with him for 25+ years then found the love of my life after my cheater died.

Run.

Last edited 3 hours ago by unicornomore
Involuntary Georgian
Involuntary Georgian
47 minutes ago
Reply to  unicornomore

I didn’t think my spouse would cheat on me, but I know that it happens so it wasn’t inconceivable. Like you, though, I figured that if it were to happen (which it wouldn’t anyway), then of course the next steps would be – as you write – 1) I’m sorry 2) I love you and 3) I’ll never do this again. I was honestly flummoxed when I didn’t even get to step 1. Actually there’s a step 0 (“I did it”) and I didn’t even get to that.

In the midst of it, I fully understood that my marriage might not survive but I really couldn’t wrap my head around my wife not caring about me enough to just say “yes, I did it and I’m sorry”. Even if I really matter so little to her, how about our kids? How could she refuse to make any step – no matter how small – that could have preserved our family? Realistically, I knew that there was a very good chance the family wouldn’t survive, but to refuse to try even once not necessarily for me but for the kids?

Josh McDowell
Josh McDowell
3 hours ago

No kids, she’s a cheater and liar…so leave before this becomes a bigger mess if she decides you’re worth it and wants to try and have a child. You have a lot of life and living ahead of you and possibly finding love again with someone who values you and your marriage.

Last edited 3 hours ago by Josh McDowell
Imtired
Imtired
2 hours ago

I know you dont feel lucky right now, but you are. She has given you a gift. You can now build a beautiful life with a wonderful woman have a family and spend the next 60 years living a peaceful existence with the love of your life.

Dont look back! Get some therapy so you dont pick another woman who is chaos. I see so many people, myself included who passover nice, sweet, stable people because we deem them boring. Instead we choose the crazy because we feel “chemistry”. That chemistry is the unstable, crazy making chaos, which feels normal to us. Being unsafe feels safe. Thats on us to relearn that quiet peace is beautiful and healthy. I wish I could time travel and make different choices based on my life today.

Ah………to be 30 and leave after my first D day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Archer
Archer
1 hour ago
Reply to  Imtired

Everything you said above. I remember a post in one of those advice columns from a man in his 60s finding out all three kids weren’t his because the wife was a serial cheater and they were the bio kids of different affair partners.

He was devastated to put it mildly.

I hope OP listens to CN and run before she entraps him with a baby

Imtired
Imtired
51 minutes ago
Reply to  Archer

Yeah thats a good point. Alot of cheaters want an anchor baby. Entrap the chump so that they are obligated. Then go after them financially and emotionally for all they can get. Babies are a tool to extract goodies from well meaning chumps. I had a classmate who was daddy duped. Woman got married to my friend, but never broke up with BF, knocked up by her ex boyfriend unbeknownst to my friend. Years later she left him for her BF moved in with their daughter. My friend was on birth certificate and did not cut off contact immediately when he found out. He had bonded and considered her a daughter. As a result he was on hook for child support until she was 18. She bonded with her bio dad and spent little time with my friend. Eventually she stopped wanting to go with him because her mom trash talked him said hes not your real dad. Very sad for my friend. Meanwhile the looser ex and her BF got a good payday.

Dudette
Dudette
2 hours ago

Shattered, I was gifted with anger when I discovered that my ex of almost 30 years was cheating. I was also gifted with a therapist who knew with complete certainty that I needed to get out. My anger gave me strength & fortitude. My therapist gave me the tools I needed. Both these gifts (and a good divorce attorney) gave me the fuel I needed to help myself and my children. I hope you can dig deep and find what you need to get out of the marriage. Because it will never get better (“When someone shows you who they are, believe them” – Maya Angelou).

I now believe that much, much stronger than “I love you” is “I trust you”. Hindsight is 20/20 and I can now see ifat there were signs that my ex was not trustworthy, even though he didn’t cheat until late in our marriage.

Without trust, true love cannot exist. Your wife will never have true love with the new guy because their foundation is built on lies. And you can never go back to what you thought you had because shattered trust can never be restored. Every day you stay will chip away at your soul. You deserve much better. GTFO!!!

bfierce
bfierce
1 hour ago

Dear Shattered,
I hear SO MUCH of my previous shattered self in your letter. I am 3 years post final D-day and freedom. It hurts my friend, I know it hurts. My God the lie feels so much sweeter than the truth at the stage you are in. I’m glad you found “us.” Please be brave. You know the truth. You need us all to tell you right now that everything that woman is saying is a LIE, a bold faced LIE, and YOU DESERVE BETTER. Stop trying to figure her out, you can’t. Stop trying to justify the lies and the betrayal, you can’t. You know in your heart that the stupid shit she is saying is a lie and you owe yourself the respect and dignity to let her have her lies to herself and free yourself from a moment more of pain. Imagine what staying with her would mean….. I promise you that it would be a greater and more prolonged agony than the hurt of abandoning the dream. All of us here know that the pain of betrayal and leaving a cheating partner is the death of the dream. Leaving the cheater is freedom. But leaving the dream of the love that we so badly wanted is where many of us feel the devastation. Separate the two. Leave the abuse. Leave the lies. Honor your truth. It will be painful, but you can’t stay and hold on to the dream that will never be. She will neverrrrrrrr be what you hoped. like ever. Stay Strong. Big Hugs.

Elsie_
Elsie_
1 hour ago

Your pain is not part of her calculus.

That was a big part of why I finally told my ex “no reconcilation ever” after a year of long-distance separation. He was all focused on his “struggles” walking on the beach and making “friends,” and didn’t care that I was stuck explaining and dealing with two very angry college students who were trying to process everything. He was retired with endless time and a fancy rental house in a gated community. I had two jobs and all the rest.

He had some weird plans for reconcilation, but I also began to think that he was going to want to take up where we left off, pretending that none of it ever happened. He didn’t want any responsibility or accountability. Nope. We divorced.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Elsie_
unicornomore
unicornomore
43 minutes ago
Reply to  Elsie_

So true. Your pain didnt factor in. I’m very introspective and have thought to myself…if I had a chance to cheat, would I? If not, why? Being a chump hurt me in such a cataclysmic ways, I cant fathom doing that to my husband. Is it because he is a perfect spouse? No, everyone makes mistakes, but my beloved s and would suffer so much if I did that.

Ive read “an unguarded strength is a double weakness” soI avoid saying “I would never!!!” as that tempts the Universe more than Im interested in doing, so instead, I focus on the daily work of being a trustworthy spouse who respects the feelings of the person (Im remarried after Chumpdom) I vowed to protect.

So Elsie’s advice above is good

ThreeTimesAChump
ThreeTimesAChump
1 hour ago

Shattered, absolutely do not have sex with your wife ever again. She is a confirmed liar. You do not want her to have the opportunity to trap you and/or force you to write a large check to her every month for the next 18+ years. Or, at best, give you an STD or ten.

She does not want to lose her cake. You have no idea what she may do to keep it.

She is no longer your partner or friend. Time to treat her like the enemy that she is. Do not tell her what you are doing. Do not confide in her or anyone that may communicate with her. Freeze your credit/accounts. Meet with an attorney. Now.

Archer
Archer
39 minutes ago

100% this. Understand she is an enemy combatant. She does not have your best interests in mind.

Why would a childless young female cheater stay married? To extract resource$ from the chumpy man. To use and abuse him.

dondashall
dondashall
1 hour ago

There’s nothing to work with her. Even assuming she’s telling the truth (and there’s no reason to assume that) she knows that a behavior she ACTIVELY engages in hurts you and she continues doing that. A person who does that is just cruel. Leave.

MollyWobbles
MollyWobbles
1 hour ago

Shattered, I can feel your pain. I can see that you’re trying to blame yourself. THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT. Please read the stories here and see that yours is one of legions. Your wife is not just friends with this guy. She’s lying to you. About everything. They are having an affair and she was going to great lengths to hide it from you. She cannot be trusted. You need to leave now.

I left DECADES after the first Dday in my marriage. I’m now old, tired and broke. But I’m out. Please don’t be me. Leave while you’re still young. Leave before you have children with this liar. Save yourself.

Velvet Hammer
Velvet Hammer
12 minutes ago

You need a lot of accurate input to reprogram your thinking. Reading here daily was and still is an invaluable remedy for keeping my thinking in the right place.

Grab some books….Tracy’s Leave a Cheater book and Cheating in a Nutshell are two very good ones.

My first therapist did workshops with Dr Frank Pittman, a brilliant therapist who put things in very simple, no-nonsense, enjoyable-to-read terms. I start to lose consciousness when things I read are dry, scientific, and academic…..

Here’s an excerpt from Private Lies by Dr Frank PIttman:

“In lying, one is identifying the other as one’s opponent, even one’s enemy. In marriage intimacy is developed through confessions, explanations, and soul searchings. But of course intimacy involves equality, and people who are telling lies are not seeking any aspect of intimacy, especially equality. Liars are hoping for advantage, which will be produced by disorienting and distracting the other person. The liar is stepping outside the relationship. The lie may be a greater betrayal of the relationship than the misdeed being lied about. It takes very little misinformation to disorient and destroy a relationship. I often point out to people that if I gave them detailed instructions on how to go from Atlanta to New York City, and threw in only one left turn that was a lie, they would end up in Oklahoma.”
-Dr. Frank Pittman
Private Lies
(p. 59)

He also wrote another great book called Grow Up! In it, he says he tells cheaters, “YOU are what is wrong with your marriage.”

Again, the antidote for how you are feeling is CHANGING YOUR THINKING, and that means daily exposure to resources that keep your perspective in the right place. It’s daily reprogramming and it’s a process. LIke any other medicine, it takes time, so be patient, kind, loving, and compassionate toward yourself.

LYING PREVENTS INTIMACY. You don’t have intimacy with your so-called spouse, and cheaters and side pieces don’t have it with each other.

Contentment, bliss, peace of mind, and joy are the rewards of a relationship with an honest person. Hold out for it.

XXOO

♥️

Last edited 7 minutes ago by Velvet Hammer